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Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking

by Pudentame <no.one@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Doc wrote:
> I'm limiting this to what seem like technically oriented groups, not
> including UFO forums in an attempt to avoid slobbering tirades from
> the tinfoil hat brigade.
> 
> I'm wondering why it is, in all the incidents of "UFO" sightings,
> including some that have made the news, any images that aren't obvious
> hoaxes (and many that are) are always grainy, shaky, indistinct blobs
> blurs, pinpoint lights etc.

Because, by definition, if you can tell what it is from the image, it's 
not "Unidentified".

And by corollary, the grainier, shakier and less distinct the image is, 
the harder it is to identify what's in the image. So, after you've 
identified what you can from the good images, you're left with the 
"grainy, shaky, indistinct blobs blurs, pinpoint lights etc."

Watching the video, the people taking the pictures have miserable 
photographic technique ... holding a digital point 'n shoot at arms 
length to use live view to frame the photograph practically guarantees 
blurry images.

There's a follow-up story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvx4Dnu-NDU&feature=related

YEARS ago, some, (cough, cough) friends made some of these "Chinese 
lanterns" from tea candles, kite sticks & the plastic bags that the dry 
cleaners used to cover hanging garments (thinnest plastic bag you could 
find).

Tie about 100' of really light fish line in a circle and then attach 
three of the "lanterns" by the ends of the crossed kite sticks to that 
loop, light the candles and they'll float along in a more or less 
triangular formation.

If anyone on the ground sees it, they'll only see lights floating along 
in formation. It's not, BTW, an experiment I recommend in today's "War 
on Terror" climate.

But, IIRC, the USMC later admitted they were conducting training west of 
San Diego that night. There were some pointed comments made about why 
the military would first deny having aircraft in the area then later 
admit they were operating there. They claimed it was all a 
mis-understanding.

A substantial percentage of UFO sightings are of special operations 
forces training and/or operational flights. They're out there trying to 
be un-identified.

Further, if you're around the US Southwest (Edwards AFB & "Area 51" ...) 
there's all sorts of secret experimental aircraft. The government tests 
this stuff at night specifically because it's more difficult for someone 
to get a good photograph.

A lot of it is kept hidden to avoid tipping off potential adversaries 
about new capabilities.

Even more of it is kept hidden to avoid tipping off the taxpayers to how 
much money gets wasted on screwball **** that doesn't work.
 




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Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking
Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 14:41:22 
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"nappy" <n@[  2008-02-19 14:46:58 
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dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-19 15:24:23 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:56:55 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 15:43:11 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:05:18 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 06:04:57 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:27:25 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 21:53:44 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:56:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-20 20:17:23 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 20:28:28 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 21:42:26 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 07:12:33 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 23:32:13 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-22 11:21:39 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 09:54:18 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 20:03:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 15:48:32 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-22 17:46:10 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-23 11:34:23 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-22 19:18:03 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-19 23:51:09 
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TRoss <tross003@[EMAIL  2008-02-19 18:14:47 
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"Larry L [in Honolul  2008-02-20 01:35:57 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 01:45:19 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:12:41 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 18:54:43 
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ushere <removethis.les  2008-02-20 03:22:02 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:42:34 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-19 19:52:01 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 00:04:57 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:30:31 
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Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-02-19 23:55:25 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-20 09:53:15 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 12:16:16 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-20 12:21:07 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-20 22:46:58 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 23:11:44 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-21 00:03:02 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 20:04:07 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 19:58:42 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:53:00 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:48:48 
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Bill <trash@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-20 12:04:31 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:18:37 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:46:44 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-02-20 15:58:36 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 21:19:21 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 13:29:10 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 22:15:50 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:35:58 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:29:40 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:26:28 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:09:39 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:52:03 
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Martin Heffels <goofie  2008-02-20 15:19:00 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:44:03 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:55:40 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:08:25 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-02-20 19:02:16 
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"john bates" &l  2008-02-21 19:16:04 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 21:04:38 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 21:09:10 
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dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-26 11:49:51 

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