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Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking clear video/stills of UFO's?

by "Dudley Hanks" <hanks.dudley@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 20, 2008 at 09:19 PM

"William Graham" <weg9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Dudley Hanks" <hanks.dudley@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:xW%uj.36747$w57.9666@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Bill" <trash@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:xZadnfHCKusDwCHanZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> You know, if the Air Force really did want to keep some of their 
>>> exercises a secret, why wouldn't they just say, "Golly, yes, I guess
you 
>>> must have seen a UFO..." and leave it at that.
>>>
>>> It seems odd when they sometimes say there was no UFO.  It is 
>>> understandable that they would say "it wasn't us", but how could they 
>>> possibly know for sure it wasn't somebody else?  Everybody stay calm.
>>>
>> Well, I can understand how discussing the difficulties of catching a
UFO 
>> in clear detail might fit into this newsgroup, but second guessing 
>> military responses seems a bit outside the purpose of alt.photography. 
>> However, I'm a sucker for this kind of discussion, so I'll bite.
>>
>> If the military actually said, "Hey, isn't that neat!  You folks saw a 
>> UFO over Vegas last night.  Cool!"  Wouldn't that lead to a bit of 
>> anxiety on the part of Vegas residents?  Wouldn't the people of that
fair 
>> city then be saying:  "So, with all the money in your budget you missed

>> it?  Are you also going to miss a missile coming in over the Atlantic
or 
>> Pacific?"
>>
>> Given our system of command and control and accountability, the powers 
>> that be need to maintain the impression that they are like God, 
>> omnipresent and ever vigilant.  To admit that something happened that 
>> cannot be rationalized underminds the whole system and will never be 
>> admitted.
>>
>> Take Care,
>> Dudley
>>
>>
> The air force could say, "Wow! - It's a good thing that our enemies
don't 
> have the technology that those aliens have. They were able to travel all

> that way without being detected, and our enemies can't even launch a 
> missile a few hundred miles with us not only knowing about it, but being

> able to shoot it down!"
>
And, how long would such a general, admiral or politician keep his or her 
job after offering up a statement such as that?

> This whole UFO discussion suffers from the same thing that my atheism 
> suffered from when I was arguing with the religious types.....In the
long 
> run, it doesn't matter whether there is a God or not, because he doesn't

> do anything for us in any case, so who cares? - In the same manner, if
the 
> aliens don't come down to Earth and show themselves to us and help us 
> solve some of our problems, then why would we care whether they are real

> or not? IOW, I don't really care whether the UFO's are from other solar 
> systems or not. It is perfectly obvious to me that at this late date,
they 
> aren't going to help or hinder us in any way, so why would it matter
what 
> they are? And, therefore, why bother to speculate about it? It doesn't 
> matter whether a God who never intervenes exists or not, does it?
>
I'll bite on the questions of aliens, but the whole God debate I'll leave
to 
other forums, or you can e-mail me at hanks.dudley@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 for a private

dialectic.

Regarding why we should care if alien crafts are sighted but do not
interact 
with us, well, wouldn't you be interested if you knew that an invasion was

iminent?  Or, if you, yourself, kept seeing things you couldn't rationally

interpret, wouldn't you be concerned that you either needed to upgrade
your 
education or seek competant  psychological assistance?

From the time of Plato and Aristotle, if not from the earliest wondering 
contemplations of cavemen, the human race has sought to understand both 
ourselves and the world around us.  Why draw the line at the present level

of understanding and say, "Great, we now know enough to live comfortably. 
Let's all just sit back and have a big retirement party!"

As long as stuff happens that cannot be rationally explained, enquiring 
minds will want explainations, and the search for explainations will spawn

inquisitorial discussions until solutions are settled upon.

Take Care,
Dudley
 




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Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking
Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 14:41:22 
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"nappy" <n@[  2008-02-19 14:46:58 
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dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-19 15:24:23 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:56:55 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 15:43:11 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:05:18 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 06:04:57 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:27:25 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 21:53:44 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:56:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-20 20:17:23 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 20:28:28 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 21:42:26 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 07:12:33 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 23:32:13 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-22 11:21:39 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 09:54:18 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 20:03:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 15:48:32 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-22 17:46:10 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-23 11:34:23 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-22 19:18:03 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-19 23:51:09 
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"Androcles" <  2008-02-19 23:55:14 
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TRoss <tross003@[EMAIL  2008-02-19 18:14:47 
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"Larry L [in Honolul  2008-02-20 01:35:57 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 01:45:19 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:12:41 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 18:54:43 
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ushere <removethis.les  2008-02-20 03:22:02 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:42:34 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-19 19:52:01 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 00:04:57 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:30:31 
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Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-02-19 23:55:25 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-20 09:53:15 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 12:16:16 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-20 12:21:07 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-20 22:46:58 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 23:11:44 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-21 00:03:02 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 20:04:07 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 19:58:42 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:53:00 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:48:48 
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Bill <trash@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-20 12:04:31 
Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of tak
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:18:37 
Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of tak
"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:46:44 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-02-20 15:58:36 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 21:19:21 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 13:29:10 
Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of tak
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 22:15:50 
Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of tak
"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:35:58 
Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of tak
Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:29:40 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:26:28 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:09:39 
Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of tak
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:52:03 
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Martin Heffels <goofie  2008-02-20 15:19:00 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:44:03 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:55:40 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:08:25 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-02-20 19:02:16 
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"john bates" &l  2008-02-21 19:16:04 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 21:04:38 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 21:09:10 
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