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Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking clear video/stills of UFO's?

by "David McCall" <mccallmail@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 20, 2008 at 09:53 PM

"William Graham" <weg9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "William Graham" <weg9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Impossible" can mean many things to many people. In theory, anything 
> might be possible, especially to a pure mathematician. But
realistically, 
> if you are going to bother to even consider (and discuss) any problem, 
> then you must consider the laws of physics as we know them to be today. 
> And, in the light of those laws, it is extremely unlikely that any
object 
> here on earth came here from some other star system. - I have no
objection 
> to "flights of fantacy" speculation, but just understand that when you 
> indulge it these, you are leaving the realm of rational thought, and 
> entering the realm of science fiction fantacy. IOW, when I look up in
the 
> sky, and see something that I do not understand, I will be willing to 
> believe almost anything about it rather than speculate on it's origin 
> being outside of our own solar system. This is simply a practical matter

> based on all the laws of physics that I have known (and used) during my 
> whole lifetime. I spent about 30 years working at a high energy physics 
> laboratory chock full of people with PhD's in physics. We used 
> relativistic mechanics on a daily basis to solve real problems involved 
> with the machines we built and used to investigate the make up of
matter. 
> I can assure you that these equations were reliable, and enabled us to
do 
> our jobs well. We built and used machines that cost the taxpayers over
100 
> million dollars using them, and they worked as expected when completed. 
> So, I am forced to go with that technology unless and until I am shown 
> some other technology and had it explained mathematically to me, and 
> demonstrated to me as well.
>
Attitude towards your fantasy vs. known reality is what is im****tant.

I don't like the word "impossible" very much. It is just too limiting.
Unless we have people that are willing to crawl onto a limb to attempt
to prove that what was thought to be impossible actually is possible.

It is often im****tant  to know something about the limbs you climb out to,
but knowledge can be limiting as much ignorance, in some cases.

Then you get to faith. You have faith in science, and with good cause.
Others have faith in concepts or beings that science has debunked.
If they already have a distrust of science, as most religions seem to
want to teach, then the stretch to there being alien visitors.

A UFO is just something that flies that an individual can't yet identify,
Until you or someone you trust has evidence, it remains unidentified.
Nothing more nothing less. I can have a fantasy that it came from
the moon, or it is a illumination flare, or anything else I can come
up with. It is just im****tant that I convey it as a fantasy, not fact.

People often say that they are telling you facts when in reality they
are using mostly flawed information to reinforce their fantasy.

David
 




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Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking
Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 14:41:22 
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"nappy" <n@[  2008-02-19 14:46:58 
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dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-19 15:24:23 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:56:55 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 15:43:11 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:05:18 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 06:04:57 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:27:25 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 21:53:44 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:56:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-20 20:17:23 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 20:28:28 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 21:42:26 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 07:12:33 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 23:32:13 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-22 11:21:39 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 09:54:18 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 20:03:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 15:48:32 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-22 17:46:10 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-23 11:34:23 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-22 19:18:03 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-19 23:51:09 
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"Androcles" <  2008-02-19 23:55:14 
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TRoss <tross003@[EMAIL  2008-02-19 18:14:47 
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"Larry L [in Honolul  2008-02-20 01:35:57 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 01:45:19 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:12:41 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 18:54:43 
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ushere <removethis.les  2008-02-20 03:22:02 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:42:34 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-19 19:52:01 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 00:04:57 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:30:31 
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Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-02-19 23:55:25 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-20 09:53:15 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 12:16:16 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-20 12:21:07 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-20 22:46:58 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 23:11:44 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-21 00:03:02 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 20:04:07 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 19:58:42 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:53:00 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:48:48 
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Bill <trash@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-20 12:04:31 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:18:37 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:46:44 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-02-20 15:58:36 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 21:19:21 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 13:29:10 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 22:15:50 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:35:58 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:29:40 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:26:28 
Re: UFO Photography and Videography (was: from a skeptic)
"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:09:39 
Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of tak
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:52:03 
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Martin Heffels <goofie  2008-02-20 15:19:00 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:44:03 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:55:40 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:08:25 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-02-20 19:02:16 
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"john bates" &l  2008-02-21 19:16:04 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 21:04:38 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 21:09:10 
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dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-26 11:49:51 

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