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Re: Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking clear video/stills of UFO's?

by "SteveB" <meagain@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 20, 2008 at 08:17 PM

"William Graham" <weg9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote

> Exactly. So, I have little to go on but my own common sense, acquired
from 
> a lifetime of observation and experience. This common sense tells me
that 
> UFO's (as extraterrestrial objects) don't exist. I don't believe in 
> bigfoot and crop circles either, for the same kinds of reasons. And
today, 
> even with good, sharp, crisp photographs, I wouldn't believe in them 
> either.....So, after about 50 years of hearing about these things, and 
> with everybody and his brother carrying cameras, I still haven't seen or

> heard of any decent evidence on any of the three.....Make that 
> four.....(We'll throw in the Loch Ness monster, too.) And, as time goes 
> on, the likelihood of there being anything to any of these wild stories 
> lessons more every day. I am more of a non-believer today than I ever
have 
> been in the past. But hey, if others want to waste their time
speculating 
> about those things, well, they can have at it. I just don't want them to

> be angry at me for knowing better, or to say things like, "You don't
have 
> an open mind." My mind has to be waiting for them to bring me absolute 
> proof.....If that's not having an open mind, well, I'm sorry about that,

> but the burden of proof has to lie with the one who claims that the
little 
> green men exist, and not with me who claims that they don't.

Each person has their own experiences.  You may tell me how beautiful the 
Statue of Liberty is and I may tell you how beautiful the Grand Canyon is.

But I have never seen the Statue of Liberty, and you (maybe, if not,
insert 
proper locale) have never seen the Grand Canyon.

Which of us is spouting spew?  Both?  Neither?  All you are doing is what 
you put down, which is just saying whatever sup****ts your own conclusions 
and experience.

I have never seen any little green men.  I did see four lights in the sky 
one time at high altitude.  They were about two to four fingers apart if
you 
held your hand up as a measuring device.  They all four moved in exact 
unison.  Left about six fingers.  Right and up about six fingers.  Then,
the 
lights went in a direction I would call "out".  Their  position in
relation 
to each other stayed exactly the same, but the four corners became
smaller, 
just as they would have if they were  flying machines of some kind, and
just 
flew away from the viewer in a direction away from the earth.

I regard each person's belief and experiences as I would respect their 
religious position.  I know what I saw, and it may be rationally
explained, 
although it hasn't been yet.  As for others, yes, some are swamp gas, too 
much Southern Comfort, satellites, planets, airliners, and a lot of other 
purely natural phenomenons.

To disdain any other person is akin to claiming God status.  I'm right,
and 
there's only one way to believe and look at things.  If you don't follow
the 
same faith I do, you'll go straight to Hell for eternity.  Or, most 
offensive, "I'm just smarter than you."

I have an open mind, but I'm not waiting for someone to bring me absolute 
proof.  If that were the case, I wouldn't go to church on Sunday.

One believes or one does not.  And the ones who truly believe do not have
to 
attack nonbelievers or anyone who questions them.

Steve
 




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Serious question from a skeptic - practical realities of taking
Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 14:41:22 
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"nappy" <n@[  2008-02-19 14:46:58 
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dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-19 15:24:23 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:56:55 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 15:43:11 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:05:18 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 06:04:57 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:27:25 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 21:53:44 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:56:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-20 20:17:23 
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-20 20:28:28 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 21:42:26 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 07:12:33 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-21 23:32:13 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-22 11:21:39 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 09:54:18 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-22 20:03:15 
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"SteveB" <me  2008-02-22 15:48:32 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-22 17:46:10 
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Rick Merrill <rick0.me  2008-02-23 11:34:23 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-22 19:18:03 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-19 23:51:09 
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TRoss <tross003@[EMAIL  2008-02-19 18:14:47 
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"Larry L [in Honolul  2008-02-20 01:35:57 
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"David McCall"   2008-02-20 01:45:19 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:12:41 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-19 18:54:43 
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ushere <removethis.les  2008-02-20 03:22:02 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:42:34 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-19 19:52:01 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:30:31 
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Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-02-19 23:55:25 
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"SteveB" <mo  2008-02-20 09:53:15 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-20 12:21:07 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-20 22:46:58 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 23:11:44 
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"Anon" <abus  2008-02-21 00:03:02 
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"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 19:58:42 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-19 22:53:00 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-02-20 09:48:48 
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Bill <trash@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-20 12:04:31 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:18:37 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 12:46:44 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-02-20 15:58:36 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 21:19:21 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 13:29:10 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 22:15:50 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-20 16:35:58 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:29:40 
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"William Graham"  2008-02-19 22:09:39 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 07:52:03 
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Martin Heffels <goofie  2008-02-20 15:19:00 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:44:03 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 08:55:40 
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"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-20 20:08:25 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-02-20 19:02:16 
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"john bates" &l  2008-02-21 19:16:04 
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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2008-02-20 21:04:38 
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