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Re: where to start?

by "Dudley Hanks" <hanks.dudley@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 25, 2008 at 09:14 AM

"Joel" <Joel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Ken Hart" <kwhart1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> <snip>
>> Also, use those lines individually: For example, If you are taking a 
>> photo
>> of a tree, don't put the tree in the middle, put it at one of the 
>> vertical
>
> Well, *if* you take picture of ONE tree then where you gonna put it?


Joel, that is an awesome question.

In order to decide where I'm gonna put that tree, I first have to decide 
what it is about that tree that demands I take its picture.  And, for
that, 
I need to imagine what I would find interesting in a single tree.

First, if I were to snap a shot of a single tree, I would try to imagine 
what type of location would have a single tree that was photogenic enough 
for me to devote a few megs of storage space.  Obviously, it's not going
to 
be in a forest, because I can't imagine one tree being so special that I 
would take the time and expend the energy needed to isolate it from its 
fellows.  No, the tree would have to be in an unusual location, or at
least 
in a location where it would dominate the scene and perhaps iconicize some

ideal I hold im****tant.

As I open my mind's eye, I see a desert scene.  No, no dunes and scrubby 
cactus, I'm visualizing a place that's more on the edge of a desert where 
wind tangled trees start to make a stand.

The tree is almost the same colour as the sand, so I can't have it in the 
lower part of a picture; instead, it needs to be up in the skyline.  This 
demands that the skyline be pushed down to the lower third of the image 
area.

So, now I'm looking at a tree that's jutting -- no sweeping -- up from the

drabby, sparsely vegetated soil into a nearly void area, which isn't good.

Something is needed to juxtapose against the tree in order to give it 
meaning.

The easiest thing to put into the sky is a bird, maybe a vulture, but the 
scene is starting to get too morbid.  I don't want this image to be
symbolic 
of death -- which is where it's heading.  I want it to be more of a 
celebration of stamina and perseverance.  So, I nix the bird and start 
dragging some clouds in from the side.  But, which side?

Well, this is determined by where my tree is placed, which is the point of

this whole visualization thing.  Thus, I have to take a closer look at my 
tree.

It's on the edge of a desert, and winds have been whipping around it for 
many years.  Accordingly, it's kind of pushed over a bit, and leaning to
one 
side -- the left side.

Okay, now I've got a problem.  The tree is leaning to the left, which
means 
the desert is on the right, but I'm going to need to put the tree on the 
right because I want it flowing into the image area and not toward the
edge. 
This means I'm going to have to cut the desert out of the picture, right?

Well, maybe not.  If I use a really wide-angle lens, I can possibly
squeeze 
in a bit of the desert sifting in from the right while simultaneously 
exagerating the tendril like threads of the trees branches as they reach 
across the central part of the picture, and a bit towards the rear.

Hey, I like that.

Now, I need to think about light.  Where is it coming from?  What is it 
like, soft, medium or harsh.

This is where I have to pause for a moment and start layering in a few 
different special effects.

At first, I thought that a dark stringy silhouette  reaching across the 
image would look good, but then I changed my mind.  The tree is old, 
weather-worn, and full of character, so I want to bring that character to 
the fore.  So, I need either some split lighting where one side is a fair 
bit lighter than the other, or I need some fairly soft light that will 
contrast with the harshness of the pictorial elements.

Whenever I try to use the split lighting in my mind, I'm faced with the 
problem of which side does the light come from, and how will the shadow 
affect the image.

I could possibly use the shadow as a foil (to borrow a literary term) to
the 
tree, but that would mean that I'd have to give more ground room to the 
shadow, and that would entail moving the skyline up to the middle or top 
third of the image, which I'm not keen on.  It could work.  But I just
can't 
picture it.  I'm going for the wide open, wind-swept western look here,
and 
raising the terrain starts to close things in too much.

So, I opt for a softer, more surreal approach.  And, the time becomes 
sunset -- a little hack-kneed maybe, but it works for me.

Now, I want to add some meaning to this shot.

On its own, a tangled tree with a sunset in the background might make a
nice 
postcard, but I want something better than that.  Besides, putting the 
sunset behind the tree means I have to use a fill flash to bring out
detail 
on the close side, or else I'm back to the silhouette again.  Therefore, I

move the sunset off to the left.  I could put the sun on the right, but
that 
would throw the balance off.  The right would be bright and have the tree.

The left would be darker, and have nothing but sky and a bit of clouds. 
Once again, the overall mood would start taking a nosedive.  Brightening
the 
left with the dull glow of the sun along the horizon makes the time 
indeterminate (unless you know the area).  Is it sunset or dawn?  It could

be either.  For me, it's sunset, but you as the observer might take it to
be 
early morning.  But, I want a positive feeling regardless of what time you

think it is,

Which is why I said earlier that the tree is reaching back into the
picture 
as it flows across to the left.  This makes it look like the tree is 
reaching towards the sun, and it invokes our elementary grade-school
lessons 
that plants tend to turn towards the sun.  So, we have a bit more
complexity 
in the environment.  The wind has swept the tree in one direction, but
that 
direction is where the light is coming from.  So, has the tree yielded to 
the wind?  Or, is it gaining strength from the sun.  We can't say for sure

because the interconnections of our environment are simply too complicated

for us to say with any certainty which factors determine what effects.  In

some cases we can say with some degree of authority what is happening, but

not in all, and this picture illustrates one situation where we see that
we 
have a number of forces at work on an object, but the end result simply 
gives us something to think about, and maybe a bit of inspiration because
we 
see that the tree has used one force to survive against the other.

Now, I didn't exactly have that theme in mind when I started this
exercise, 
but it grew out of my desire to imagine why I would want to photograph one

tree, and how I would do it.

So, Joel, in answer to your question, I'd put the tree at the lower right 
junction of the horizontal and vertical grid lines, but it would grow up
and 
towards the upper left junction, which would be above and in front of a 
glowing horizon.

At least I'd do it that way this time.  The next time I do it, I might
think 
of a tree that has fallen across a stream...

Now, I have another picture to track down and photograph.

Thanks, Joel, for the inspiration.

Dudley
 




 26 Posts in Topic:
where to start?
"Vass" <writ  2008-02-24 18:26:28 
Re: where to start?
tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-02-24 15:19:42 
Re: where to start?
"Vass" <writ  2008-02-24 20:36:15 
Re: where to start?
"www.kevinkienlein.c  2008-02-24 20:46:30 
Re: where to start?
Robert Coe <bob@[EMAIL  2008-02-24 20:53:46 
Re: where to start?
Gergana Vasileva <gpet  2008-02-26 11:32:53 
Re: where to start?
Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-24 15:52:50 
Re: where to start?
"flambe" <fa  2008-02-24 14:17:35 
Re: where to start?
"Ursus Californicus&  2008-02-24 16:49:26 
Re: where to start?
"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-24 20:26:02 
Re: where to start?
Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-24 23:15:23 
Re: where to start?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-25 09:14:48 
Re: where to start?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-25 02:50:01 
Re: where to start?
"Zilla" <zil  2008-02-24 20:42:25 
Re: where to start?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-25 02:03:03 
Re: where to start?
"Vass" <writ  2008-02-25 08:13:18 
Re: where to start?
Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-25 05:48:41 
Re: where to start?
"Vass" <writ  2008-02-25 14:51:52 
Re: where to start?
Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-25 09:59:42 
Re: where to start?
Paul Furman <paul-@[EM  2008-02-25 18:49:37 
Re: where to start?
"www.kevinkienlein.c  2008-02-27 00:12:02 
Re: where to start?
"www.kevinkienlein.c  2008-02-24 20:44:14 
Re: where to start?
ray <ray@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-27 15:42:11 
Re: where to start?
Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-27 16:49:40 
Re: where to start?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-27 23:03:03 
Re: where to start?
"The One" <s  2008-03-05 15:10:49 

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