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Re: Kids Photo Competition

by Chris H <chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM

n message <HM6Dj.10712$hP3.5232@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, PinkFloyd43 
<pinkFloyd43@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>Chris H wrote:
>> In message <47d48896$0$31016$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, efraim 
>>silver <photocomp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>>> This months photo competition is kids. Win great cash prizes. Goto 
>>>www.photocomp.com.au to register and enter for your chance to win.
>>  Take care.... photographing kids is a quick way to get arrested. 
>>Paranoia rules!
>>  Seriously the laws on photographing minors can get very paranoid and 
>>restrictive in some countries... and posting pictures of kids to the 
>>Internet can get all sorts of unwelcome attention (peado ring etc)
>>  My wife is a primary teacher so I got chapter and verse on it when I 
>>was  taking some pics of  our son's rugby matches a few years ago.
>>
>You sound a little off there, actually taking photos at a public place
>is legal,

No it's not always....  As I said my wife is a teacher and has discussed 
all the rules on taking pictures of children. Also by coincidence a 
couple of UK photo magazines have had articles on the subject.

Also laws vary from country to country.

For example,  apparently,   the Eiffel  Tower at night with it's lights 
on is copyrighted by the tower company! In theory you need permission to 
photograph it. (God knows how they enforce that!) I am not sure about in 
daylight.

Taking pictures of all bridges or government building is illegal on some 
countries and taking pictures of some bridges and government buildings 
is illegal in all countries. You have to know which is which before you 
take the picture.  Not all "public spaces" are equal.

Some Brits were arrested on public property in Turkey  taking pictures 
of military jets that were taking off.  They were plane spotters. Took a 
couple of months to get them released (and the could prove they were 
plane spotting geeks)

Much "public property" is in fact state/town owned. So if the council 
put an event on in the local park you may not be able to take pictures 
of the event or performers without permission from the council and or 
the performers.

Come to that you may not be able to take pictures of the people 
attending as the event is on council property and you have not asked 
permission.... Normally no one enforces this but they could..

>now if you are trying for up skirts of little girls thats
>something else and you should go to jail!

You have a strange mind... Who suggested that sort of thing?

In the UK taking pictures of minors in for example a "public playground" 
is not permitted. Several reasons... the children being minors can not 
consent and the "public playground" is in fact owned by the council. ie 
state owned and they can say you can't take photos. Or at least they 
haven't given positive permission that you can.

Most s****ts events are held on club or local state/ town owned property 
so you can't take pictures without permission. IF it is minors you have 
to also have permission ALL the parents and guardians.

So taking photos of any child other than on your own property without 
permission of the land owner*  AND parents  is likely to get you in to 
trouble.

*Most "public space" is in fact owned by some one and  local town 
councils can be more paranoid and PC than others (fear of getting sued, 
in the papers  etc)

I some countries taking photos of a female not related to you  might get 
you lynched, stoned, arrested, beheaded or a prize. The rules vary a 
lot.

With children you usually need the consent of the parent/guardian and 
most "public space" have rules.

Also all you need is one idiot to put it about that you were 
"photographing little girls" and your reputation (and quite often your 
windows and car) are shot.... some times literally.  You can't prove a 
negative and once a rumour starts "everyone knows" there is no smoke 
without fire....

In the UK when a national news paper named and shamed some pedophiles 
several paediatricians homes were attacked!!! It doesn't take much in 
the current climate of hysteria. In the UK that has been a high profile 
case of a 9 year old girl being abducted and found yesterday (a month 
later) so photographing children you don't know (and who don't know you) 
anywhere could get you at a minimum detained for questioning.... 
assuming the police get to you before the locals do.

SO TAKE CARE check the rules first is all I am saying and do not assume 
anything.

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 5 Posts in Topic:
Kids Photo Competition
"efraim silver"  2008-03-10 12:02:10 
Re: Kids Photo Competition
Chris H <chris@[EMAIL   2008-03-10 09:39:35 
Re: Kids Photo Competition
PinkFloyd43 <pinkFloyd  2008-03-16 10:38:31 
Re: Kids Photo Competition
Chris H <chris@[EMAIL   2008-03-16 11:22:06 
Re: Kids Photo Competition
PinkFloyd43 <pinkFloyd  2008-03-16 18:15:16 

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