Garry Knight <garryknight@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>
> > You can read as much detail information about Canon 40D at some site
like
> > www.dpreview.com and www.steves-digicam.com (not so sur if I get the
name
> > right on this one),
>
> Yes, I've read the 40D review and a 450D review in a magazine, and I'm
> working my way through all the user reviews. I was hoping there might be
> someone who's already gone this route (e.g. weighing up the pros and
cons
> of the 400D vs the 40D where the difference in spec between the cameras
is
> bigger than the difference in spec between the 450D and the 40D) and who
> might give some insight as to how they made the decision. In fact, it's
the
> fact that the 450D borrows so much from the 40D that makes the decision
so
> difficult.
That's why I suggest to check with those 2 sites there you can read the
End Users' feedbacks instead of commercial review. In general there won't
be much difference besides something like
- Size (some body is smaller/larger than other)
- FPS (Frame Per Second) for s****t
- ISO option's.
And you can spend few months to read as much infomation as you wish at
the
sites I mention above. Many are not correct but you should be able to
make
your own judgment
> > but I don't think more detail about the camera will help much with the
> > photography or the difference between P&S vs DSLR. And I can tell you
> > this much
>
> I've been looking into DSLRs for the last 6 months or so, and I know why
I
> want one and I have a fair idea of what difference it can make to what I
> can achieve.
Well, if you have gathered all information you need then really to spend
your $$$, and if not then do little more research. And I still suggest to
do more research on the LENS as to me it's more im****tant than the body.
> > Poit your browser to the 2 links (abve) and may wanna check with
> > www.fredmiranda.com (I hope I have the name right) to read the feed
backs
> > of the 70-300mm and you may wanna check other as well.
>
> Thanks for this. I didn't know about this site.
>
> > LENS is one of the most im****tant part of the whole system, and
usually
> > more im****tant than the body itself. No, I don't have the 70-300mm
(and
> > you may wanna inclue the F-STOP and other detail of the lens as they
can
> > be very im****tant parts of the lens.
>
> It's the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM telephoto zoom lens I'm thinking of
> getting, and the fredmiranda site has 161 reviews. It'll take a while to
go
> through that lot. And this site can help me decide which wide zoom to go
> for, so thanks again for the link.
- Pay attention to the RATING
- Pay attention to some waco/sicko rating
- Comparing with other lens
Mine? none of mine is slower than F2.8 *except* the Bigma 50-500mm f4
> > I can tell you this much, when you wanna build the DSLR system then
you
> > may want to start with something good then move forward, or if you
start
> > with the bottom then you will always wish to have a better one, and
you
> > may not be happy with what you have. The 40D is a real good start,
and it
> > isn't that expensive
>
> Whichever camera I start with it will be the 'bottom' sooner or later
when
> newer models come along. The 40D still looks like the front runner but
the
> 450D is so close to it in spec. But the 450D has 12MP over the 40D's
10MP -
> probably not that much of a difference to take into account.
Right now the Canon 40D is the TOP of the entry_level of professional,
it's compared with the top_of_the_line Nikon D300
> > Well, if you wanna be Canon basher <bg> then Nikon D3000 seems to be a
> > pretty good camera, it's lot more expensive than Canon 40D, and many
> > comparing Canon 40D with Nikon D3000 (or D300?)
>
> And I'd have to take the cost of the Nikkor lenses into account, and
what is
> available in the lengths I'm considering.
I chose Canon because it's good with low-light and I do wedding, funeral
photography so I often have to deal with low-light. I read the new Nikon
D300 is pretty good with low-light too, but I only saw few samples.
> > Well, I would spend another 6 months to read as much as I can while
> > continue to enjoy the current camera to improve the photography skill.
Or
> > no need to rush when you try to build a WHOLE SYSTEM *not* just a
single
> > camera. This is what I can suggest
>
> This is what I have spent the last 6 months on. As an amateur my whole
> system will consist of a body, 2 or 3 good lenses, extra battery (or
maybe
> just go for the grip), remote control, better tripod & monopod, a
handful
> of memory cards, a bag, and not much more. Maybe later on an external
> flash.
I actually spent around 2 years on the DSLR research while I was still
using P&S. I dunno the value of my whole photography gear, but probably
around $20,000-30,000+?
> > - Get a GOOD BODY. Don't have to be the very top but not the bottom
>
> The 450D certainly isn't the bottom. And I can't afford a 5D let alone a
1ds
> Mk III, so it's between the current top amateur cam (the 450D) and the
> current top prosumer cam (the 40D).
>
> > - DO NOT settle for cheap lens. You won't learn much from cheap lens
but
> > disappointments, and when you move up to a good lens then it will make
the
> > good lens more expensive (or you should use the $$$ on good lens
instead
> > of cheap lens)
>
> That's why I'm looking at the 70-300 IS I mentioned above, and a good
wide
> lens (though I probably won't need IS for this).
Check for the QUALITY (IQ) and Fast Focus, Low Light etc.. and 70mm won't
be wide enough (70mm is an ODD number for camera with 1.6X).
- Don't pay attention to miss/hit as just about all lens can capture sharp
image. But how FAST it can FOCUS is another story.
- With FAST lens you will have more chance to capture a good photo, and
you
can do in low-light situation than slow lens. IOW, you may be able to
bring
a distance image slower but what good if the image is too blurry, too
soft,
full of noise etc..?
> > - And the other suggestion is sharpening your post processing skill as
the
> > more you know the more you can benefit and enjoy your new camera gear.
>
> Yes. I know the basics, but I bet even pros discover new things they can
do
> from time to time, and I can certainly gain from learning a lot more.
>
> All very good advice IMO, Joel. Thanks for your input. I'm getting
there...
> slowly...
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