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Re: Film vs Digital

by Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 27, 2008 at 06:35 AM

Peter wrote:

> "Roy Jose Lorr" <kenthz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:c5CdnT6ad5xvgXbanZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> Peter wrote:
>>
>>> "Roy Jose Lorr" <kenthz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>> news:CtCd****ChK45lnbanZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Art is a window to the soul, as cave paintings express so well.  
>>>> When manipulation is the rule, art is soulless cartoon fantasy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What painting is not a manipulation of  color and form?
>>
>>
>> All of life is a constant attempt to manipulate environment.  When 
>> manipulation is the primary means to an artistic visual representation 
>> of inner spirit, which all art must be, the end result is outright lie 
>> which nowadays comes out as soulless cartoon fantasy.
> 
> 
> Your premise about all of life is not sup****table.

How so?

> 
> Art, even cartoon art is in the eye of the beholder. Don't try to 
> dictate what is and isn't art.

You confuse "dictate" with "opinion".  Feel good relativism suits you 
but it doesn't suit nature.

> 
> If I use manipulation as a means to interpret my emotion, that is my 
> expression. It is yours to like or not. If you reject my expression 
> simply because it is a manipulation, I would think your view is rather 
> narrow.

I don't reject anything because it is manipulated since I believe 
manipulation is a natural human characteristic (cognizance demands 
judgment).  Relativism is a busted concept, a cowardly apologetic for 
base desire.  Everything is not good no matter the situation and art is 
not an exception.   The outcomes of relativistic reasoning are usually
bad.

> I you reject it because you don't like it, so be it. but please don't 
> set an artificial and unsup****table standard.

Denial is another natural human characteristic.

> 
> Do you think that AA's use of the zone system was not a "manipulation."

He described a pre existing phenomenon in nature.

The arrogant self absorption of mere mortals is astounding.
 




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Film vs Digital
"Pumper Hinkle"  2008-03-23 08:04:07 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-03-23 16:10:01 
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burt@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-24 04:00:32 
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"Frank Arthur"   2008-03-23 12:23:39 
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"jimkramer" <  2008-03-23 12:54:55 
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Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-03-23 11:58:26 
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"Frank Arthur"   2008-03-23 17:37:50 
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Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-03-23 17:16:04 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-23 13:27:11 
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"jimkramer" <  2008-03-23 17:00:36 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-23 17:15:15 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-23 17:06:31 
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"jimkramer" <  2008-03-24 07:07:59 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-03-24 16:14:10 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-24 12:06:28 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-03-25 19:57:23 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-25 16:05:09 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-03-26 17:48:06 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 11:14:50 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 18:21:07 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 18:41:04 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 22:07:08 
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"Pumper Hinkle"  2008-03-25 21:57:54 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 04:28:12 
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van dark <van.dark@[EM  2008-03-26 14:40:21 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 18:32:39 
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dj_nme <dj_nme@[EMAIL   2008-03-27 11:30:51 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-23 17:01:03 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-23 19:50:04 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-23 17:08:46 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-24 18:17:37 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-24 15:26:10 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 17:58:19 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 18:43:51 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-24 05:27:30 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-24 18:19:36 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-24 15:32:11 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-24 20:54:24 
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Noons <wizofoz2k@[EMAI  2008-03-25 06:02:50 
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Leatherman <scooter_tr  2008-03-25 09:25:56 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-25 15:56:05 
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"jimkramer" <  2008-03-25 17:15:12 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-26 05:10:54 
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"jimkramer" <  2008-03-25 17:20:02 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 18:30:23 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-23 19:41:56 
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Scott W <biphoto@[EMAI  2008-03-23 18:26:13 
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ray <ray@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-24 01:29:25 
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"jimkramer" <  2008-03-24 07:06:42 
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Chris H <chris@[EMAIL   2008-03-24 11:59:20 
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Robert Peirce <bob@[EM  2008-03-24 16:51:39 
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"Pumper Hinkle"  2008-03-24 11:31:51 
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Vance <Vance.Lear@[EMA  2008-03-24 19:00:51 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-24 19:59:44 
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Vance <Vance.Lear@[EMA  2008-03-24 23:10:31 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-24 23:36:21 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-25 02:32:51 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-25 03:53:26 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-25 09:11:36 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-25 07:35:18 
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Vance <Vance.Lear@[EMA  2008-03-30 12:29:26 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-30 13:04:58 
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floyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-24 23:39:00 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-25 03:50:01 
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Joel <Joel@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-25 09:10:35 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-25 07:34:25 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 18:02:32 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 18:45:32 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 22:37:17 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 19:51:16 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-26 23:01:05 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 21:05:06 
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Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-03-27 04:53:19 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 22:17:31 
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Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-03-28 04:23:47 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-28 06:08:24 
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Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-03-29 09:21:07 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-30 06:46:47 
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Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-03-31 03:03:41 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-30 19:51:40 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-03-28 16:05:24 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-28 12:37:18 
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Marvin <physchem@[EMAI  2008-03-29 15:43:15 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-30 06:53:10 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-27 04:02:58 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-27 06:35:09 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-28 12:46:44 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-28 12:42:10 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-28 18:42:32 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-28 16:31:35 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-03-30 19:04:03 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-30 16:48:48 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-04-02 09:26:01 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-04-04 01:04:32 
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krishnananda <not@[EMA  2008-03-28 13:54:44 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-28 12:46:36 
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Vance <Vance.Lear@[EMA  2008-03-30 20:48:25 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-30 23:09:39 
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Vance <Vance.Lear@[EMA  2008-03-30 15:08:49 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-30 16:28:35 
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floyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-26 20:24:44 
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floyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-26 20:27:04 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 22:22:17 
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floyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-26 20:28:27 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-26 22:17:11 
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"Zilla" <zil  2008-03-29 10:31:20 
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floyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-31 02:51:08 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-31 06:08:28 
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floyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-31 07:00:59 
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Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-03-31 16:51:34 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-31 09:58:02 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-31 10:08:28 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-31 09:51:10 
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"Peter" <pet  2008-04-02 09:37:29 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-04-04 01:00:22 
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floyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-31 11:54:37 
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Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-03-31 13:14:46 

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