Peter wrote:
> "Roy Jose Lorr" <kenthz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Peter wrote:
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>>> "Roy Jose Lorr" <kenthz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Art is a window to the soul, as cave paintings express so well.
>>>> When manipulation is the rule, art is soulless cartoon fantasy.
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>>> What painting is not a manipulation of color and form?
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>> All of life is a constant attempt to manipulate environment. When
>> manipulation is the primary means to an artistic visual representation
>> of inner spirit, which all art must be, the end result is outright lie
>> which nowadays comes out as soulless cartoon fantasy.
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> Your premise about all of life is not sup****table.
How so?
>
> Art, even cartoon art is in the eye of the beholder. Don't try to
> dictate what is and isn't art.
You confuse "dictate" with "opinion". Feel good relativism suits you
but it doesn't suit nature.
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> If I use manipulation as a means to interpret my emotion, that is my
> expression. It is yours to like or not. If you reject my expression
> simply because it is a manipulation, I would think your view is rather
> narrow.
I don't reject anything because it is manipulated since I believe
manipulation is a natural human characteristic (cognizance demands
judgment). Relativism is a busted concept, a cowardly apologetic for
base desire. Everything is not good no matter the situation and art is
not an exception. The outcomes of relativistic reasoning are usually
bad.
> I you reject it because you don't like it, so be it. but please don't
> set an artificial and unsup****table standard.
Denial is another natural human characteristic.
>
> Do you think that AA's use of the zone system was not a "manipulation."
He described a pre existing phenomenon in nature.
The arrogant self absorption of mere mortals is astounding.


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