On Mar 30, 5:53=A0am, Roy Jose Lorr <ken...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Marvin wrote:
> > Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
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> >> Marvin wrote:
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> >>> Rob Morley wrote:
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> >>>> In article <c5CdnT6ad5xvgXbanZ2dnUVZ_u2mn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Roy Jose
> >>>> Lorr ken...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
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> >>>>> All of life is a constant attempt to manipulate environment.
=A0When=
> >>>>> manipulation is the primary means to an artistic visual
> >>>>> representation of inner spirit, which all art must be, the end
> >>>>> result is outright lie which nowadays comes out as soulless
cartoon
> >>>>> fantasy. =A0The reason photography =A0is less than art is that
what =
it
> >>>>> depicts is experienced second hand, its creator cannot see to
> >>>>> engage the subject with the spirit, the tool stands in the way.
=A0
> >>>>> Thus, gimmick substitutes not only for experiment but for true
> >>>>> emotion and spiritual connection, not only in the perpetrator of
> >>>>> the artifact but in those who view the travesty as well.
>
> >>>> What an utter load of bollocks.
>
> >>> It's "art-speak".
>
> >> Whatever its called, it invites serious refutation rather than mere
> >> discomforted grunts.
>
> > So refute it.
>
> Refute my own assertion?
>
> =A0 =A0Your frequent postings seem to have no point to them.
>
> I doubt I've posted to this ng more than a dozen times, 98% of those
> posts exclusive to this thread. =A0If that seems like "frequent" posting
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Actually, you have posted to this NG approaching 70 time with the
salience, clarity and incisive intellectual construction demonstrated
in your posts to other groups.
The percentage of posts to this thread is somewhat less than you
estimate.
In spite of how clear everything is about you statements, there is one
linguistic token that is ambigous. Is your use of 'manipulation' a
label for an act intentionally carried out on the environmnet in order
to effect a desired change in the in the state of affairs of the
actors environment, or would you include the unintended consequences
of such an act as part of the manipulation?
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