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Re: Previously Discussed but worth considering..

by "Ken Hart" <kwhart1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 5, 2008 at 12:35 PM

"ChrisCoaster" <ckozicki@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>A few months ago I wandered into this great forum and launched a
> discussion about the not-so-manual aspects of the "manual" mode on
> some compact(non-SLR) digital cameras.
>
> My chief complaint was that when zooming, the iris(f-stop value) was
> automatically decreased when zooming(increasing focal length).
>
> It was stated here that that is in fact what happens when you increase
> focal length - you reduce light intake.  Fair enough.
>
Not _exactly_ true, there are other considerations that get very
technical. 
The longer the focal length, the more difficult it is to make a 'bright' 
lens. I've got a pair of older Canon lenses, both 200mm. One is a f/4.5,
the 
other f/5.6. The brighter one is substanially bigger, heavier, and more 
expensive. OTOH, the dimmer one is more comfortable to have hanging around

my neck!

> But how difficult, and for that matter how costly, would it be for
> manufacturers to allow a setting that "freezes" f-value at the
> operator's choice when zooming.
>
I can't speak about the costs of research & developement, or the cost of 
adding a cam, ball bearing, or linkage arm to a lens... Let's just say
that 
zoom lenses are tricky. There are lens elements moving to focus, and other

lens elements moving to zoom. Additionally, when you change zoom setting, 
the focus may ****ft, so the movements of the zoom and focus elements have
to 
be linked.  In order to keep the cost down, something has to be cut, and
the 
brightness of the lens is probably the best place to start, as that can be

made up with film speed or shutter speed.

> That is, keep f=2.0 or 3.0 or whatever while zooming out to, say, 4x
> or 6x optical, to really narrow the field of focus on the subject.
> That's what the really expensive manual SLRs allow one to do, right?
>
Of course you can have the features you want if you are willing to pay for

it. But your last sentence sums it up-- "really expensive". Actually, if
you 
are looking at a 35mm SLR, there are a lot of them on the used market that

have fantastic features and a multitude of glass available at really 
attractive prices. Because I use a 40 year old camera, I have a pile of 
lenses to pick from, and a vast selection of camera bodies. The price that
I 
paid over the years for this gear might, maybe, on a good day, get me a
top 
of line dSLR with a standard lens. Of course, I'm not willing to drop down

from film quality to digital...

(BTW: the f/stop is a ratio, with "f" representing focal length. The
proper 
way to write an f/stop is as a ratio, ie: "f / 22", the diagonal line 
representing "divided by")
 




 5 Posts in Topic:
Previously Discussed but worth considering..
ChrisCoaster <ckozicki  2008-04-05 08:50:51 
Re: Previously Discussed but worth considering..
"Ken Hart" <  2008-04-05 12:35:24 
Re: Previously Discussed but worth considering..
Paul Furman <paul-@[EM  2008-04-05 23:29:17 
Re: Previously Discussed but worth considering..
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-05 21:58:24 
Re: Previously Discussed but worth considering..
Alex Monro <nospamdele  2008-04-06 15:28:59 

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