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Re: Where do we draw the line?

by "Dudley Hanks" <hanks.dudley@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM

"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:d7o5049epp8egrvejvlft2rasln46f7g45@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:21:00 GMT, "Dudley Hanks"
> <hanks.dudley@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>Crop lines, that is...
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/hanks.dudley/Dima.html
>>
>
> Kinda depends on what you are trying to present.  Are you presenting
> an image of Dima, or presenting a composition with Dima in the image?
>
> There's an interesting pyramid of the lighter fir (pun intended)
> behind Dima, but - in my opinion - it leads the eye away from the dog.
> It's like a big arrow directing the eye to go upwards.
>
> If your intent is present an image of Dima, then I'd crop it
> horizontally lose the trees.  Put Dima's tags on a vertical line about
> a third of the way from the left of image.
> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/cooper213/dima.jpg
>
> Overall, your composition is too balanced for my taste.  Static.
>
>
> --
>
> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Thanks, Tony, I appreciate the feedback.

Concert photography was what I loved doing in the past, so action, drama 
energy were what I strove for.  With my present current shift to more
still 
life type shots, it's taking a bit of experimentation to achieve the
effect 
I want.  So, I am grateful you pointed out the overall static atmosphere.

As for my intention, I am not so much into doing a portrait of Dima; 
rather, I want a composition which tells a bit of her story.  When we 
graduated, GDB brought in a pro shooter to do a grad portrait of the two
of 
us, so I have a shot of her in harness by my side which looks very nice.

With my first guide, Bonner, he loved to lay around on the beach.  When we

were on holidays, when we frequented the beach areas of Vancouver, Canada,

and the Sunshine Coast (a bit north of Vancouver), Bonner was in his glory

just lazing around, lying on the sand and trying to dig holes (when I
wasn't 
looking).  So, I took a good shot of him in that setting, a very low-angle

shot taken from just in front of a fore-paw, his head lifted, mouth open
in 
a smile like expression and his eyes gazing out over the water.  The shot 
was low enough that his head was surrounded by sky, and the light --
nearly 
white -- sand adding contrast to his darker fur.

When people think of guide dogs, they have this stereotypical view of
guides 
which excludes the dog's real nature.  What people miss is that guides
have 
a life out of harness as well.  I don't want just another shot of my
guide, 
in harness, on the job, playing a supportive role.  I want the shot to say

something about my guide's soul.

In Dima's case, she loves the great outdoors.  When we go camping, she 
relishes in chasing squirrles, birds and little things that hop, scurry or

slither across the ground.  She would run off into the trees and find a
big 
stick and bring it back.  Then, we would play tug with it, and she would 
chew it to pieces.  She would wait for wasps, bees, dragon-flys and other 
flying insects to get close.  Then, she would whip out her muzzle and snag

them in mid-flight.  She got stung a few times, but it never slowed her 
down.  one time, when she was in harness and we were at a busy bus stop, 
waiting for a bus to take us home at the end of a busy day, she forgot 
herself and leaped about four feet into the air from a sitting position, 
snagging something that got too close.  She snapped her jaws about 3 or
four 
times in mid-air before she got it, but she got it.  At least, that is
what 
one of the totally shocked bystanders told me, after regaining her 
composure.  I think they thought Dima was a rogue guide who was about to
go 
for their throats -- sort of a Cujo in harness.

This is why I want something in the picture to symbolize the woods -- and 
her spirit.

While I didn't plan the big arrow pointing to the sky, I like what it
stands 
for, and I want to thank you for pointing that compositional element out
as 
well.  I have been thinking about doing a reshoot in a different area to
see 
what I get, but the composition you describe almost sounds poetic, 
definitely prophetic.

Today, Dima is having a bit of an off day.  I have been getting used to
her 
nearly back to normal demeanor, but she was a bit quieter and calmer today

than she usually is.  I wouldn't say she has been lethargic, but
definitely 
more subdued.

I'll need to monitor her closely tonight, I think.

Thanks for the suggestions, Tony.

Take Care,
Dudley




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Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-14 03:21:00 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-04-14 04:46:03 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-14 04:00:54 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-04-14 05:24:59 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-14 22:35:36 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 04:37:52 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-14 23:02:22 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-04-14 01:13:32 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Paul Furman <paul-@[EM  2008-04-14 05:32:53 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-15 22:45:48 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Alienjones <Alienjones  2008-04-14 16:13:40 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-14 07:34:55 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-14 05:44:41 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Alienjones <Alienjones  2008-04-14 20:46:53 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-14 18:44:58 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-14 21:58:51 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Alienjones <Alienjones  2008-04-15 13:03:39 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-15 06:01:49 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-15 06:17:58 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Peter" <pet  2008-04-18 20:33:50 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Paul Furman <paul-@[EM  2008-04-19 17:28:42 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Frank ess" <  2008-04-14 09:47:09 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-04-14 15:28:33 
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"Frank ess" <  2008-04-14 13:22:33 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-04-14 23:10:55 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Roy Jose Lorr <kenthz@  2008-04-15 11:55:58 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
PinkFloyd43 <pinkFloyd  2008-04-26 12:44:02 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
George Kerby <ghost_to  2008-04-26 13:30:24 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-26 19:00:49 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
George Kerby <ghost_to  2008-04-26 14:25:00 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-04-26 16:02:22 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Frank ess" <  2008-04-26 13:31:15 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-04-26 12:06:51 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
George Kerby <ghost_to  2008-04-26 14:26:49 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-04-26 14:45:24 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Peter" <pet  2008-04-26 20:34:32 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-27 03:44:11 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Peter" <pet  2008-04-27 07:19:47 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-27 19:14:29 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Peter" <pet  2008-04-27 16:21:29 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-04-27 04:05:51 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-05 12:57:39 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-05-06 04:47:02 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Frank ess" <  2008-05-05 22:16:13 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Paul Furman <paul-@[EM  2008-05-05 22:17:13 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-05-06 05:55:33 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-06 06:39:42 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-05-06 06:56:15 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
George Kerby <ghost_to  2008-05-06 08:46:42 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Peter" <pet  2008-05-06 18:26:11 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
"Tzortzakakis Dimitr  2008-05-12 17:27:49 
Re: Where do we draw the line?
Vance <Vance.Lear@[EMA  2008-05-06 13:28:03 

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