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Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!

by TH O <tho@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 8, 2008 at 03:21 PM

In article <f9q5t35juqddjfrufq4hhcipls05e4p7ko@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Tony Polson <docnews2011@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> TH O <tho@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> >And best of all, Nikon has introduced planned obsolescence into its 
> >line. We used to be able to use manual focus lenses on all cameras but 
> >now you need an $1800 camera or better (D300) since Nikon has removed 
> >metering and aperture coupling ability from lower end bodies. Which 
> >means that now the customers are more likely to buy new lenses. With
the 
> >D40/D40x/D60, half of the autofocus lenses won't AF on the bodies, so
it 
> >further limits the available used lenses, makes many AF lenses
obsolete, 
> >and leads customers towards new lenses.
> 
> 
> Nikon has been doing this for years.  I was very disappointed indeed
> when the Nikon N80/F80 did not offer metering with AIS lenses.  Within
> a short time, the only Nikon SLR body options for a photographer
> expecting to meter with AIS lenses started with the F100, at a price
> not unadjacent to the equivalent value of today's $1800.

As far as I can see there is no justification for dropping this backward 
capability except to increase Nikon's sales. Is there really any 
manufacturing cost for allowing a D80 to meter through AIS lenses that 
were stopped down? How much would adding the features for AIS lens 
coupling cost to the D80? $3? $5?
 
> So this is nothing new.  What Nikon did was to improve their lenses
> incrementally.  First AI, then AIS, then AF (in two attempts), then
> AF-D, then AI-P, then AF-S, and now VR.  Somewhere in there was AF-P
> also.  So Nikon offered some backward compatibility, but not the sort
> of near-total compatibility that the Canon EF mount has offered.

My point is that many of these changes created unwarranted 
incompatibilities which Nikon has op****tunistically used to make bodies 
and lens obsolete. Today, my concern is that they are consciously 
creating incompatibilities so they can increase lens and body sales. 

> However, let us not forget that Canon abandoned its loyal FL and FD
> customer base (and largely alienated it) with the introduction of the
> EF mount.  At least Nikon has avoided that, going for step by step
> changes that keep most Nikon users on board rather than Canon's one
> step change that turned off a whole community of loyal fans.

Canon certainly abandoned their users with the change. That was what 
brought me to Nikon.
 




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Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-06 19:28:56 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-03-07 01:11:13 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-06 20:22:56 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-03-07 01:33:31 
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rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-07 06:07:28 
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"Pete D" <no  2008-03-07 18:00:00 
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"William Graham"  2008-03-07 16:53:38 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-08 07:56:04 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Savageduck <savageduck  2008-03-16 12:44:02 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
George Kerby <ghost_to  2008-03-16 15:49:02 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-16 16:46:42 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-03-07 07:59:01 
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rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-07 06:03:48 
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"rwalker" <r  2008-03-07 13:53:23 
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George Kerby <ghost_to  2008-03-07 17:19:24 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-08 07:55:42 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
John Sheehy <JPS@[EMAI  2008-03-08 18:44:23 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-09 09:48:34 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-09 15:50:40 
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"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-09 20:44:17 
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"rwalker" <r  2008-03-10 00:00:25 
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Matt Clara <mattclara@  2008-03-07 18:56:23 
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"William Graham"  2008-03-07 19:11:10 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
=?iso-8859-1?Q?The_Dave=A  2008-03-08 03:56:37 
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Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-03-08 07:51:56 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-08 07:57:09 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-03-08 17:30:18 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Chris Malcolm <cam@[EM  2008-03-08 11:37:07 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-08 07:56:53 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
dj_nme <dj_nme@[EMAIL   2008-03-09 01:33:35 
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"The DaveŠ" <  2008-03-09 05:44:56 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"XxYyZz" <Xx  2008-03-09 22:19:31 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
TH O <tho@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-08 14:24:40 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Paul Furman <paul-@[EM  2008-03-08 19:33:24 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
TH O <tho@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-08 15:23:09 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Pete D" <no  2008-03-10 06:25:04 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-08 19:39:45 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-03-08 20:13:04 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
TH O <tho@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-08 15:21:58 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Paul Furman <paul-@[EM  2008-03-08 13:23:55 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-08 22:31:24 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"The DaveŠ" <  2008-03-09 05:49:48 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-09 11:29:44 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
=?iso-8859-1?Q?The_Dave=A  2008-03-10 21:51:52 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-10 22:17:06 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-09 09:50:23 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
=?iso-8859-1?Q?The_Dave=A  2008-03-10 21:51:52 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-10 22:50:13 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-10 19:40:18 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
George Kerby <ghost_to  2008-03-10 19:02:33 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
TH O <tho@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-09 10:08:35 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-09 09:49:27 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
PixelPix <mail@[EMAIL   2008-03-08 22:20:19 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?The_Dave=A  2008-03-10 21:51:51 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
"Rita Berkowitz"  2008-03-10 19:40:42 
Re: The Nikon D3 makes everyone's life better, even mine!!!
Pudentame <no.one@[EMA  2008-03-10 22:27:17 

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