"Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Jean-David Beyer" <jeandavid8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> 4164 Tri-X has the poorest shadow detail I have ever
>> seen (although the all-toe 4147 PlusX is somewhat
>> similar)
>
> I think these two films are only meant for Hurrell-style
> ****traiture where highlight detail is im****tant and shadow
> detail isn't.
>
> http://www.frankpicturesgallery.com/photography/hurrell/harlow-large.jpg
>
> They do well on snow scenes.
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> Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
> Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
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> n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
>
A beautiful picture of Jean Harlow. I think the curve for
Tri-X 320 and the old Plus-X Pan Professional sheet film was
more for the sort of ****traits Karsh did of male subjects.
These "all toe" films tend to exagerate textures. Kodak
always made films with similar curves, that is, upward
deflected all along their length, for ****trait work. Karsh
appears to have used a long toe orthochromatic film for male
****traits and pan film for women. I have no idea what Hurrel
used but, keep in mind, that Hurrel was notorious for the
amount of retouching he did on negatives.
I've had some success using the old Plus-X for general
photography but it does need some increase in exposure. The
problem is that pu****ng the exposure up the curve increases
contrast at all values, not just shadows. The current Plus-X
roll film and ISO-400 Tri-X are medium-toe films which in my
experience work well for nearly everything.
My experience the T-Max 400 is quite different from UC's:
I find the tone rendition good for both indoor and outdoor
use and have often shot outdoor ****traits with it.
I've generally found Kodak's published film curves to be
pretty accurate. Tone rendition from the films tends to
confirm the curves. T-Max has a quite short toe and a very
long and quite straight mid ****tion so its shadow contrast
should be fairly high. My photos on it tend to show this.
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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