On Oct 16, 5:50 pm, "Richard Knoppow" <dickb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> > "Jean-David Beyer" <jeandav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
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> >> 4164 Tri-X has the poorest shadow detail I have ever
> >> seen (although the all-toe 4147 PlusX is somewhat
> >> similar)
>
> > I think these two films are only meant for Hurrell-style
> > ****traiture where highlight detail is im****tant and shadow
> > detail isn't.
>
>
>http://www.frankpicturesgallery.com/photography/hurrell/harlow-large.jpg
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> > They do well on snow scenes.
>
> > --
> > Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
> > Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
> >http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm
> > n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
>
> A beautiful picture of Jean Harlow. I think the curve for
> Tri-X 320 and the old Plus-X Pan Professional sheet film was
> more for the sort of ****traits Karsh did of male subjects.
> These "all toe" films tend to exagerate textures. Kodak
> always made films with similar curves, that is, upward
> deflected all along their length, for ****trait work. Karsh
> appears to have used a long toe orthochromatic film for male
> ****traits and pan film for women. I have no idea what Hurrel
> used but, keep in mind, that Hurrel was notorious for the
> amount of retouching he did on negatives.
>
> I've had some success using the old Plus-X for general
> photography but it does need some increase in exposure. The
> problem is that pu****ng the exposure up the curve increases
> contrast at all values, not just shadows. The current Plus-X
> roll film and ISO-400 Tri-X are medium-toe films which in my
> experience work well for nearly everything.
> My experience the T-Max 400 is quite different from UC's:
> I find the tone rendition good for both indoor and outdoor
> use and have often shot outdoor ****traits with it.
> I've generally found Kodak's published film curves to be
> pretty accurate. Tone rendition from the films tends to
> confirm the curves. T-Max has a quite short toe and a very
> long and quite straight mid ****tion so its shadow contrast
> should be fairly high. My photos on it tend to show this.
>
> --
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
recent tests (performed in 2005) the TMY characteristic was clearly
evident. Highlights had more contrast and shadows less contrast than
Tri-X, Neopan 400, and HP5 Plus. It was clear as could be. The films
were exposed and developed to yield similar overall contrast and
printed on Ilford Multigrade paper with the same filtration.
Developers were Paterson FX-39 and Acutol. TMY is clearly different
from other ISO 400 films. Side-by-side comparisons of identical
subject matter are perhaps the best way to see these differences.
there is no doubt whatsoever of the results, which were consistent
with previous experience with these materials.
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