On Oct 27, 10:05 am, piterengel <pslavi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Oct 25, 6:36 pm, "Richard Knoppow" <dickb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > "piterengel" <pslavi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On 25 Ott, 01:50, dan.c.qu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> > "Richard Knoppow" wrote:
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> > >> > ... but lith film remains because it is used
> > >> > in a number of alternative photographic processes
> > >> > and for special effects such as masking.
> > >> > Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA
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> > >> Check your local printing supply outlets or visit via
> > >> the WWW
> > >> Valley Litho, a Mid West mail order supplier of a vast
> > >> selection
> > >> of press room supplies including a large selection of
> > >> lith - half
> > >> tone process films and developers.
> > >> Should add, also a somewhat unique assortment of film,
> > >> paper, and darkroom supplies. Dan
>
> > > Well, after all these answers I want to try to use ID-13
> > > and Kodak
> > > D-85, for 2-3 mins with fils.
> > > I have a matter with sodium bisulphite, ttah appears in
> > > D-85 formula.
> > > I've not this substance available, can I replace it with
> > > somenthing
> > > else? Is it really necessary?
> > > Thanks, I'll let you know the results of my tests.
> > > P.
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> > Photographic sodium bisulfite is actually mostly sodium
> > metabisulfite and metabisulfite can be substituted.
> > Sodium sulfite is not the same as the bisulfite. Sulfite
> > is slightly alkaline, bisulfite is slightly acid. The two
> > make a buffer and are used together, for instance, in Kodak
> > fine grain developer D-25 and in Kodak Hypo Clearing Agent
> > to get a neutral pH. Kodak has two versions of D-85, a
> > single solution developer, D-85 and a two solution version
> > called D-85b. The two solution version has better keeping
> > properties. Both formulas specify potassium metabisulfite. I
> > think the sodium form will work as well. Use whatever you
> > can obtain most easily. Agfa/Ansco had similar formulas
> > which call for sodium bisulfite so evidently the cation does
> > not matter. The bisulfite of the Ansco formulas is, like
> > Kodak, actually metabisulfite.
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> > --
> > ---
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > dickb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> These are my first two results. I've mounted on camera an EFKE 25
> film, I've taken 8 pictures, cut this first part adn put into a tank.
> Than I've taken again 8 pictures, the same of first time, cut film and
> put un another tank. I've dobe this three times.
> Than I've developed first part with ID-13 for 3 mins. Images are well
> contrasted BUT NOT enough. I remember I'm trying to obtain LINE works.
> With the second part I've used Kodak D-85 for 2.5 mins. SURPRISE!
> Everything is disappeared!!! I've a totally empty film, without any
> shadow or kind of figure! What's happen?
> The third part is still into the tank waiting for tips.
> Bye and thanks
> P.
A precisation on D-85. I've used acetone instead of paraformaldehyde,
as found elsewhere in internet.
P.


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