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Re: Another one bites the dust

by ____ <internetphobic@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 1, 2008 at 06:46 PM

In article <477ab6e2$0$30753$822641b3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 David Nebenzahl <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> I was going to say, well, duh! Of course any business requires things 
> like marketing, sufficient capitalization, etc. More basic than 
> that--and I'm surprised you didn't mention *that* obvious fact--it needs

> a market of some kind.
> 
> But assuming one puts in the time, effort and money, there still may be 
> room for a viable business doing wet color printing, particularly since 
> it will now be a "boutique" commodity, hard to find, not popular, but 
> sought-after by a few who are willing to pay good money for good work.


I think it's obvious some people will pay for these services and pay 
well. Getting that business, is not so simple as advertising in the 
Yellow pages.  For twelve years I actually have done that, with a tag 
line that I do black and white printing in addition to other 
Photographic services. In that time I have had no inquiries regarding 
printing. None.

I have done this type of work for a few Photographers, it has not been 
enough to sup****t me doing it exclusively. If one was to advertise in 
say Shutterbug and other photo magazines you might draw a wider audience 
of those more willing to spend the money-with out a reputation it 
probably will be a slow start. Of course there are other ways if one 
wants to exclusively pursue this type of business. 

 So I do believe it can be done. Its just trade advertising is like 600 
an issue versus say the 1,200 my yellow pages ad runs per year. Without 
trade ads you'll get lots of inquiries, so someone has to answer the 
phone or you'll need a website or both. You can actually have too many 
inquiries to appear professional if you've no way to respond to all or 
are working a job as well as this venture, then word gets around your 
not serious. The next thing is a certain element of "Us" photographers 
are great big "D-heads" the most anal people you will ever meet and the 
most critical, there are a lot of photographers that will do everything 
possible not to pay you, your "fair" price. Or will pump you for 
information as to how you did what what you did.


Advertising "duh" is the single biggest loss you take as a business, 
short of a fire or other tragedy "imop". 

Since word of mouth, is by many accounts a better course, perhaps 
involvement at a local camera club, arts organization etc,..can give the 
start one needs,....or maybe just a sign on the back of your SUV :)

The last thing is time value, if I take a special two hours to make an 
8x10 -meaning chemical mixing etc. I have to at least charge what I 
could make working for my cheapest paying client, or lets say the 
average employer. Say I am willing to work for what my current employer 
is willing to pay me for that 2 hours of time. In my case your minimum 
cost is going to be 32.00 plus mailing or ****pping that 8x10-not 
counting a percent for all business related expenses tied to getting 
your business-I also have to make enough from my business model to pay 
rent, and have a life. Since initially this is using available free time 
to do the work, I have to question: am I the type of person that likes 
spending my free time in the darkroom to do other peoples darkroom work? 
I also have to ask can I be motivated when I can make a lot more 
shooting images and actually seeing some daylight.

-- 
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.
 




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Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-03 21:51:36 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"G.T." <getn  2007-12-03 22:16:16 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Starr <davestarr  2007-12-04 17:34:01 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-04 20:38:39 
Re: Another one bites the dust
____ <internetphobic@[  2007-12-31 00:21:46 
Re: Another one bites the dust
Scott W <biphoto@[EMAI  2007-12-04 19:59:50 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-05 11:37:15 
Re: Another one bites the dust
Scott W <biphoto@[EMAI  2007-12-05 08:37:29 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-05 20:54:09 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-05 20:58:12 
Re: Another one bites the dust
Michael <adunc79617@[E  2007-12-05 23:59:57 
Re: Another one bites the dust
Dana Myers <dana.myers  2007-12-06 07:57:44 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-06 08:20:47 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-08 09:51:20 
Re: Another one bites the dust
amb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (a  2007-12-15 06:00:11 
Re: Another one bites the dust
Alvaro <burnetdosdoses  2007-12-20 23:31:06 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-20 21:45:32 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"Nicholas O. Lindan&  2007-12-21 09:17:30 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-21 08:50:56 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-21 12:13:42 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-22 10:53:33 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-22 11:56:14 
Re: Another one bites the dust
____ <internetphobic@[  2007-12-31 00:16:42 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-30 22:39:37 
Re: Another one bites the dust
____ <internetphobic@[  2007-12-31 18:09:27 
Re: Another one bites the dust
<pico>   2008-01-01 11:17:34 
Re: Another one bites the dust
____ <internetphobic@[  2008-01-01 16:41:10 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-01-01 13:58:12 
Re: Another one bites the dust
____ <internetphobic@[  2008-01-01 18:46:20 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-01-01 17:40:44 
Re: Another one bites the dust
____ <internetphobic@[  2008-01-01 21:25:57 
Re: Another one bites the dust
Scott W <biphoto@[EMAI  2007-12-06 18:21:52 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-12 10:26:33 
Re: Another one bites the dust
"jjs" <john&  2007-12-12 21:59:00 
Re: Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2007-12-12 20:34:05 

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