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Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing

by Steven Woody <narkewoody@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 21, 2008 at 07:59 AM

On Feb 21, 8:06 pm, Claudio Bonavolta <clau...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On 20 f=E9v, 03:16, Steven Woody <narkewo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Since I've not managed to reache Lloyd Erlick's web site, so I like to
> > ask some basic questions about how to exactly do single-tray printing
> > here. Hope you professionals be kind to give me some clear answers.
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> Well, "professionals" most probably don't use the single-tray but
> other more productive techniques (processors, etc ...).
> If your space is very limited, then instead of using a single-tray, I
> would use a drum or tube.
> You can keep the lights on during the processing and pouring in/out is
> just easier.
> You may also use a motor to rotate the drum which lets you do
> something else.
> Then, you may use the chemicals one-shot or re-use them.
> Of course, this setup does cost more than a single tray but IMO is
> more efficient and agreable.
>
>
>
> > I already have basic ideal about single-tray, i.e.  pouring-in,
> > pouring-out in only one tray, but I don't know ( For both RC &
> > Fiber ):
>
> > 1,  Does basic processing steps keep unchanged? i.e., Develop, Stop,
> > Fix#1, Fix#2, Rinse in wash acid if Fiber, Wash?  Is there any
> > additional step needed?  ( In searching google, I found some people
> > likely do extra Rine before Fix#1 and after Fix#2 and he do each Rinse
> > three times )
>
> I don't see why the rinse after the Fix#2 should be acid ...
> And, after that rinse, I would definetely use a washaid before the
> final wash as it lets you reduce the wash time significantly (roughly
> by half).
>
> > 2,  Because Developer is always one-shop usage, so I think dillute it
> > more would be reasonable. If I use Kodak D-72. What's a you suggested
> > dillution and starndard developing time?
>
> Keep in mind that very diluted developer requires a much longer
> development time and if not done properly may result in poor blacks.
> If you go the diluted route, then process a print with a normal
> strength developer to have a comparison point.
>
>
>
> > 3, What's the suggested Rinse time ( if Fiber ) and Wash time?
>
> If you use a washaid, the rinse is around 5' then the commonly
> accepted wash time is around half an hour but that may vary
> significantly depending on your washer, the hardness of the water, its
> temperature, if the prints stick together or not, etc ...
> So the good recommendation is to check your washing procedure with a
> hypo residual test (I should have the formula somewhere or others will
> give it to you) and then stick to your procedure whatever it is.
>
> If you don't use a washaid (which I can't recommend), then you can
> easily double these figures but I don't see the need for a rinse.
> The rinse is meant to remove the superficial fix before another bath,
> if there is no additional bath, then it is just part of the wash.
> Don't forget the wash is done with (slowly) running water or water
> baths replaced regularly.
>
> For RC paper, then all washing procedure is much simpler and quicker
> and the substrate does not absorb the fix, only the emulsion needs to
> be washed.
>
>
>
> > Thanks.
>
> Find below Ilford's procedure of processing
films:http://www.ilfordphoto.c=
om/applications/download.asp?n=3D386
> And papers:http://www.ilfordphoto.com/applications/download.asp?n=3D390
>
> You should be able to find similar documents on Kodak's site.
>
> Best regards,
> Claudio Bonavoltahttp://www.bonavolta.ch

Thanks for you advices.  How much a print drum will cost?  Do you have
some suggested brands?  Thanks again.

-
woody




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Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Steven Woody <narkewoo  2008-02-19 18:16:21 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
<jjs>   2008-02-19 21:59:10 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-02-19 20:37:22 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Steven Woody <narkewoo  2008-02-19 22:01:19 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Lawrence Akutagawa&  2008-02-19 22:46:51 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-02-19 23:15:36 
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Martin J <maja@[EMAIL   2008-02-20 14:16:10 
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"Henry(k)" <  2008-02-20 16:46:49 
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David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-02-20 11:58:57 
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"Henry(k)" <  2008-02-20 22:57:04 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Steven Woody <narkewoo  2008-02-20 06:28:26 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 09:43:18 
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Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-02-20 14:52:05 
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<jjs>   2008-02-20 21:41:12 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-02-20 11:49:36 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
<jjs>   2008-02-20 21:42:49 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
dan.c.quinn@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-20 15:16:06 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-02-20 15:59:33 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
____ <internetphobic@[  2008-02-20 21:54:48 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
<jjs>   2008-02-20 21:48:02 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-20 23:53:47 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
<jjs>   2008-02-21 20:00:08 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
<jjs>   2008-02-21 21:09:06 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Steven Woody <narkewoo  2008-02-21 01:42:19 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Steven Woody <narkewoo  2008-02-21 02:08:25 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Claudio Bonavolta <cla  2008-02-21 04:06:08 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
<jjs>   2008-02-21 20:02:06 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-21 23:29:24 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Steven Woody <narkewoo  2008-02-21 07:59:11 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-02-21 09:48:11 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Ken Hart" <  2008-02-21 13:35:33 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Lawrence Akutagawa&  2008-02-21 18:45:44 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-23 16:54:09 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
jch <jch@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-21 19:11:00 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
"Dudley Hanks"   2008-02-23 16:48:23 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
<jjs>   2008-02-23 11:50:14 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
____ <internetphobic@[  2008-02-23 15:44:11 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
dan.c.quinn@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-21 17:06:25 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
Steven Woody <narkewoo  2008-02-22 06:04:06 
Re: Some simple questions about Single-Tray Processing
dan.c.quinn@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-23 17:47:13 

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