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Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma

by "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 22, 2008 at 01:57 AM

"Monica Schulz" <monica.schulz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:7ec52008-4faa-4941-95b0-7e9612521257@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ng,

I'm just begining to dive into the photographic process, so 
my
practical experience is still scarse. - I try to figure out 
the basics
in a theoretical way first. In case of the negative/positive 
process
(both b&w and color) there is the relation****p of contrast 
and gamma
and I simply can't get that into my head, no matter how much 
I read
and think (maybe I read the wrong papers?!).
One thing is that negative gamma and print gamma should 
combine to 1
if the contrast reproduction should match the scene (or 
1,1/1,2 if you
take into account that most people prefer a slightly 
exaggerated
contrast of the midrange values).
If thatīs true and the negative is developed to a kind of 
normal gamma
of 0,6, print gamma must be about 1,7. In the case of b&w 
contrast
must be balanced between the negative and the print if 
contrast is to
be reproduced correct. So if the neg has, say, 1,3 log units 
it must
be printed on a paper that is also capable of 1,3 log units. 
Not more,
not less. So if you chose the paper grade according to the 
neg
contrast, doesnīt that mean that you might have to chose a 
grade that
leads to a gamma which doesnīt combine to 1 with the neg?
Another thing that give me headaches in the same context are 
color
prints. In the case of the color reproduction chain, the 
negative is
normally developed to a gamma of about 0,6 and most papers 
have a
gamma of more than 2,5, so the combined gamma is 1,5. - So 
how does
that work? And why are color papers not available in 
different grades
to balance with the neg contrast?
You see Iīm kind of lost with those concepts and I really 
hope that
someone could shed some light on them to show me whatīs 
going on.

Monica Schulz

    First of all "gamma" is a measure of contrast but is not 
often used now. Gamma is the slope of the straight line 
****tion of the film or paper characteristic but, since most 
characteristics have only small straight line sections, or 
sometimes none another measure is used. This is average 
contrast or G-bar, the slope of a stright line drawn between 
a shadow and a highlight point on the curve. Kodak goes one 
step further and uses Contrast Index or CI which is the 
average contrast between two specified points on the curve. 
Since these are constant CI of different materials is easy 
to compare.
    You are right that the overall contrast of a print 
should be on the order of 1 but reflection prints are 
limited in the range of brightness they can reproduce so the 
unity contrast is usually true only of a range of mid tones, 
the shadows and highlights generally being compressed or 
simply going out of the range the paper can reproduce. Since 
transparencies don't rely on ambient light their range can 
be greater but the target contrast is still 1. However, the 
eye tends to judge "correct" reproduction of tones by the 
gray tones and, for the most part ignors deep shadows and 
bright highlights, so, if the mid-tone contrast is right the 
eye will see the print as being right even though the 
overall range of brightness that can be reproduced is 
substantially less than in the original scene, or, for that 
matter, less than what the negative will record.
    For many scenes of relatively high contrast a low 
contrast print that attempts to reproduce the full range of 
tones recorded on the negative will simply look flat.
    To some degree this can be compensated for by localized 
printing of details, either holding dark areas back to 
brighten them or printing in (burning in) highlights, but 
this must be done with skill or the manipulation will be 
obvious to the viewer.
    For black and white work, where there is little 
standardization, it is common to develop negatives to a CI 
of anywhere from about 0.4 to 0.7 depending somewhat on the 
kind of illumination used in printing. The printing light is 
im****tant because of something called Callier effect. This 
is the effect on effective density caused by the relative 
diffusion or specularity of the light source. Because most 
B&W films have an image made up of descrete silver 
particals, which can scatter light, there is a fairly large 
Callier effect. Between a completely diffuse light source, 
like a color head or a cold light head, and the usual partly 
condensing head, the contrast difference is about one paper 
grade, the condenser head having the greater contrast. Note 
that Callier effect has no effect on the one reproduction 
scale other than overall contrast which can be completely 
compensated for by either a change in development time of 
the negative or choice of paper contrast. The method of 
compensation is a matter of convenience.
     Because color films, and here I include chromogenic B&W 
film, the image is made up of semi-transparent dye, there is 
very little Callier effect so the printing light makes 
little or no difference in effective contrast. While there 
is some choice in contrast of color printing materials it is 
much less than for B&W. This is because the eye is much more 
sensitive to variations in the contrast of color. If color 
is too low or too hight in contrast the effect is quite 
obvious. So, the contrast of color recording and printing 
materials is much more highly standardized than for B&W. In 
addition to this the three recording layers (some films have 
many more) for the three basic colors must have 
characteristics which match very closely if the color is to 
track for all brightnesses. Anothere way of putting this is 
that the neutrality of a gray scale must be constant. For 
this reason also there are strict limits on the contrast 
range of color materials.
    Color negative materials, which are intended to printed 
to make postives, have relatively low contrast and can be 
controlled to some extent in processing, as long at the gray 
scale tracking mentioned above remains acceptable. Color 
positive materials are generally meant for direct viewing 
and are much higher in contrast, generally slightly more 
than 1 to compensate for flare. There ARE some transparency 
materials intended for duplication or other printing which 
are lower in contrast bu they are rarely encountered by 
amateur photographers.
    Some color materials intended for direct reversal 
printing from positive transparencies offer a lower contrast 
grade for use when the usual grade is too contrasty. This 
was sometimes the case with Cibachrome/Ilfochrome. Another 
method of reducing contrast is masking, the use of a very 
low contrast negative image overlying the postive image to 
reduce the contrast.
    I think I am getting deeper into this than you want to 
go.
    You can find some elementary material on sensitometry, 
the name for the study of tone reproduction from film, on 
the Kodak site. Search for H-740.  If you can't find it 
write me privately and I will send it to you.


-- 
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




 11 Posts in Topic:
Basic question about contrast and gamma
Monica Schulz <monica.  2008-02-21 15:33:56 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
John <use_net@[EMAIL P  2008-02-21 17:51:57 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-02-21 17:52:32 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2008-02-22 01:57:55 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
Monica Schulz <monica.  2008-02-24 08:41:00 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
____ <internetphobic@[  2008-02-24 14:08:27 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2008-02-24 14:29:05 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2008-02-24 14:11:49 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
Monica Schulz <monica.  2008-02-25 04:04:32 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
Monica Schulz <monica.  2008-02-25 15:43:08 
Re: Basic question about contrast and gamma
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2008-02-26 18:28:40 

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