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Re: "New" TMY: same as it ever was?

by "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 2, 2008 at 10:23 AM

"Thor Lancelot Simon" <tls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fqcr34$1ca$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I happen to have all three sets of Kodak rotary-processing 
>recommendations
> for Tmax 400 in front of me: the old (prior to move to new 
> coating facility)
> Publication F-32, the "new" (first generation at new 
> coating faciity) F-4016,
> and the "newest" (current production, "finer grain!") 
> F-4032.
>
> Kodak claims that the "finer grain" TMY -- the newest 
> stuff -- has "slightly"
> different processing times than the generation immediately 
> prior.  If their
> table is to be believed -- nonsense.
>
> The data in the newest -- F-4032 -- publication, for the 
> "finer grain"
> film appear, for rotary processing of sheet film, to 
> exactly match the
> data in the oldest -- F-32 -- publication, for the "old 
> coating facility"
> film.
>
> Time to plug in the densitometer again and hope it's still 
> working, I
> suppose.  I wonder what exactly Kodak is up to: did they 
> revert production
> to how (and where?) it used to be before the first set of 
> changes?
>
> -- 
>  Thor Lancelot Simon 
> tls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
     The data sheet you want is F-4043 for the "new" 
400T-Max, I have no idea what 4032 is. The latest T-Max data 
sheet covering all of the films is F-4016 dated October 
2007, however F-4043 is later and covers only the ISO-400 
film.
     My memory is that a new data sheet was issued when 
production of B&W film was moved to the same plant that 
coats color film. At that time it was stated that while new 
datasheets were issued T-Max films had always been coated in 
this plant and there were not major changes. The "new" film 
is evidently actually coated on a different machine and had 
some adjustments made to the emulsion and to the 
overcoating. The overcoating affects development times 
because it affects the penetration of the developer into the 
emulsion. It has the greatest effect on "induction time" 
that is, the time it takes for the image to begin appearing, 
but this also ****fts all times somewhat and is not 
consistent with temperature.
    I don't know why Kodak made these changes but suspect 
that the production quality had begun to drift too much. 
When the films were moved to the color plant it was re****ted 
that Tri-X films, which really were moved to new machines, 
had finer grain than before and some found the grain finer 
than 400T-Max. This last should have been the case and may 
be an indicator that the T-Max line had drifted. It is also 
possible that changes in the formulation of the emulsion 
were made. I find the suggestion in the new datasheet that 
edge sharpness is improved to be interesting because it 
suggests such a change.
    I don't think Kodak ever just re-writes datasheets for 
no reason. However, since the development charts are based 
on sensitometric measurements and since these measurements 
are made on a continuing basis for tracking the production 
quality, its quite possible that at some point there is 
enough change to warrant new overall measurements and an 
amended datasheet.


-- 
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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tls@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-03-01 19:07:00 
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tls@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-03-02 09:00:07 
Re: "New" TMY: same as it ever was?
Peter <w2tga@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-02 08:15:59 
Re: "New" TMY: same as it ever was?
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2008-03-02 10:23:20 
Re: "New" TMY: same as it ever was?
tls@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-03-03 21:05:44 
Re: "New" TMY: same as it ever was?
Dave <dsphotog2@[EMAIL  2008-03-02 18:50:16 

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