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Re: Rollei ATP film

by "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 9, 2008 at 06:00 PM

"piterengel" <pslaviero@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:35678f6b-45c2-43d3-bad9-8dbb54eed173@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi all, I've seen that it is available the Rollei ATP 
> film, whose
> "subtitle" is "Technical Pan". It's a long time I'm 
> looking for a
> valid substitute of magic Kodal TP film, a film that could 
> be treated
> also with non-standard baths such as POTA or Delagi. There 
> are few
> data about this film, it is a superpanchromatic film, can 
> anybody tell
> more? I really want test it, starting with very diluited 
> Rodinal
> (1+100 and more). I'll let you know about results.
> Bye
> Z.

      I have no direct experience with this film but you can 
find a data sheet at:
http://www.maco-photo.de/files/images/PR_Rollei_ATP_111007_1.1_gb.pdf

Rather badly translated from German.
Freestyle carries this and the recommended Rollei Spur 
developer. The MSDS is slightly odd because it lists what 
appears to be two forms of Phenidone.
      I've used quite a bit of Technical Pan over the years 
mostly developed in Technidol. The results are extremely 
fine grain but the combination is fussy. I found that in 
order to get reasonable conrast I had to cut back 
development somewhat from the recommended amount and expose 
at around EI-12.
      For 35mm I now use Kodak T-Max 100 in full strength 
Microdol-X or Ilford Perceptol. I shoot at about EI-50 and 
have no problems with high contrast highlights. The grain is 
not quite as fine as Tech-Pan but very close and the 
negatives begin to have the same smoothness of larger 
negatives which was one of the characteristics of Technical 
Pan. This should also work for other ISO-100 tabular grain 
films such as Ilford Delta and Fuji Acros. Microdol-X and 
Ilford Perceptol appear to be indentical. These developers 
must be used at full strength to get the extra-fine-grain 
effect. When diluted they become acutance developers but 
with the same grain (and speed) as D-76.
      Rodinal is not a fine grain developer although grain 
is mostly a function of the emulsion rather than the 
developer. At 1:100 it appears to suffer enough local 
exhaustion to produce some "compensating" effects on many 
films. This is essentially the flattening of the highlight 
curve. This is not the same as overall low contrast because 
the shape of the H&D curve is changed.
      The same effects also generate edge effects which lead 
to somewhat exagerated acutance. These may be desirable in 
some cases but lead to somewhat strange looking images.
      The Rollei film is evidently made by Maco, who have 
made some successful films in the past. I doubt very much if 
their emulsion making technology is up to Kodak's but it 
appears to be the only game in town so is certainly worth 
trying.
      A Google search will find a lot of discussion of the 
film by those who have tried it.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]





 13 Posts in Topic:
Rollei ATP film
piterengel <pslaviero@  2008-03-09 00:26:58 
Re: Rollei ATP film
David Nebenzahl <nobod  2008-03-09 00:41:26 
Re: Rollei ATP film
piterengel <pslaviero@  2008-03-09 07:43:41 
Re: Rollei ATP film
"Nicholas O. Lindan&  2008-03-09 11:46:37 
Re: Rollei ATP film..... Technidol
Bogdan Karasek <bkaras  2008-03-09 23:24:58 
Re: Rollei ATP film..... Technidol
Rob Morley <nospam@[EM  2008-03-10 04:12:38 
Re: Rollei ATP film
piterengel <pslaviero@  2008-03-09 13:57:38 
Re: Rollei ATP film
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2008-03-09 18:00:54 
Re: Rollei ATP film..... Technidol
piterengel <pslaviero@  2008-03-09 22:42:40 
Re: Rollei ATP film..... Technidol
John <use_net@[EMAIL P  2008-03-11 07:48:04 
Re: Rollei ATP film..... Technidol
piterengel <pslaviero@  2008-03-11 14:14:27 
Re: Rollei ATP film..... Technidol
John <use_net@[EMAIL P  2008-03-13 08:03:45 
Re: Rollei ATP film..... Technidol
"Nicholas O. Lindan&  2008-03-13 11:54:14 

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