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Re: G-Claron single cell use

by "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 21, 2007 at 03:03 PM

"murrayatuptowngallery" <murrayatuptowngallery@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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>I just read a 10 year old post about using a G-Claron as a 
>'pseudo-
> convertible' by using one cell; performance would probably 
> be better
> than 'vintage' convertibles.
>
> I had previously wondered about splitting plasmats but 
> wrote it off as
> 'sacrilege' on already decent lenses, but seeing the post 
> made me
> realize it's been done.
>
> Anyone actually try this with a G-Claron 150 and does it 
> have any
> unique qualities, or just 'work'.
>
> Thanks
>
> Murray
>

     I think, without looking it up, that the G-Claron is a 
Plasmat type. These will work as convertibles. The best of 
the old convertibles was the Zeiss Convertible Protar 
sometimes called a Double Protar. The difference is that 
these lenses are individually corrected for coma where some 
other convertible lenses, notably the Goerz Dagor and Dogmar 
are not. This allows the Protar to be used at larger stops 
with reasonable sharpness in the corners. Dagor cells must 
be stopped down to around f/45 to get rid of enough coma to 
be sharp away from the center. Protars are OK at f/36 or 
maybe even a little wider.
     Nearly any symmetrical lens can be used as a 
convertible but, as noted for the Dagor, some aberrations, 
especially those corrected by the symmetry, will be present.
     My experience with the convertible type of Symmar is 
that they perform about as well as a Convertible Protar, but 
not better. Actually, I think the correction of the 
individual Protar cells is a little better.
     I don't know if the early Plasmat type Symmar (the 
first lens of this name was a Dagor type) was specifically 
corrected for coma but it probably was. Later ones are 
corrected for best performance in a complete lens but single 
cells probably perform pretty well when stopped down enough. 
This should apply to the G-Claron.
    FWIW, the Plasmat was derived from the Dagor by 
air-spacing one of the elements. I has similar performance 
but much less zonal spherical aberration, an inherent fault 
of the Dagor type. Plasmats can also be corrected for 
astigmatism to a very high degree. Like the Dagor they are 
essentially wide angle lenses although most have perhaps 
about 10degrees less coverage than an equivalent Dagor. The 
single cells of convertible lenses of all types have quit 
narrow coverage, the plate size being about the same as the 
assembled lens.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
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 7 Posts in Topic:
G-Claron single cell use
murrayatuptowngallery <  2007-10-21 00:20:32 
Re: G-Claron single cell use
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2007-10-21 15:03:03 
Re: G-Claron single cell use
Stephan Goldstein <sgo  2007-10-22 06:48:54 
Re: G-Claron single cell use
Jean-David Beyer <jdbe  2007-10-22 12:46:11 
Re: G-Claron single cell use
tls@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2007-10-25 11:54:27 
Re: G-Claron single cell use
Jean-David Beyer <jdbe  2007-10-25 14:47:33 
Re: G-Claron single cell use
murrayatuptowngallery <  2007-10-22 22:35:05 

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