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Re: Mr. Knoppow... or...

by erie patsellis <erie@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 9, 2008 at 04:59 AM

> /snip/
> 
>>    LF can be expensive but can also be done on a budget (except for the

>> film). Despite the raves about modern lenses many of the older ones,
even 
>> ancient ones, are very good and new ones that cost a fortune are not 
>> necessary.
> 
> I'll share my experience with 4x5 film.  First of all, I don't shoot 4x5

> color - just bw.  I ran across some years ago a store closing out 8x10
bw 
> film in boxes of 25 sheets.  I think it was Forte, iso 200.  I bought a
box 
> (all of ten dollars), cut the film down to 4x5 in the darkroom (cotton 
> gloves, duct tape, and paper cutter), maintained emulsion orientation to

> snip off a bit of the upper right corner, and tried it out.  Worked 
> perfectly.  So I went back and bought the eight or so remaining boxes. 
> Granted, a bit of a bother to have to trim the 8x10 film down to 4x5,
but 
> what a bargain!  I think I still have a box or two in the freezer.
> 
> And a number of those older lenses are much lighter than the more modern

> ones - I prize my 210mm Tessar.  Very, very nice images, much lighter
than a 
> more current lens, and small enough that I don't have to detach it from
the 
> camera. 
> 
> 
For me, film costs are the least of it, if you don't mind ortho response,
(which I don't), 
Ultrafineonline.com (photo warehouse) has Continuous Tone dupe flim in
8x10 and 14x17, in 
25 packs 8x10 is just under a dollar a sheet, by the hundred, it's about
85 cents. in the 
16x20/20x24 I shoot lith film exclusively, I got a boatload of 16x20 lith
film for free 
from a printer I know that went direct to place, I probably have around
800 sheets left 
still. Dektol 1:6 tames the contrast wonderfully, and an EI of about 6
makes the Packard 
or lens cap approach quite doable.

I can put my 8x10 field camera, a handful of holders, a mounted 210
angulon and 
lightmeter/filters, etc. in a small shoulder cooler and carry my tiltall
over my shoulder, 
a rather enjoyable hiking outfit.

By contrast, my entire 20x24 camera weighs nearly 50#, including the lens
came in at just 
under $150(bellows scrounged from a process camera, drawer slides for
focusing stage, 
scrap plywood scrounged from the local cabinet shop, the only high dollar
item was a 17" 
lead screw for the focusing), it folds up too. It doesn't travel far from
the van 
whatsoever. (the Weston approach to LF photography, if you will)

For 99% of my personal use, I shoot either the 8x10 field, my C1 if I'm
feeling 
adventurous, or a Toyo 45F. The big guns stay indoors, unless a client is
footing the bill.


erie
 




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