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Re: Ilford HP5+ and Tri-X contrast

by "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 22, 2008 at 12:00 AM

"Martin J" <maja@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> krishnananda <k@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> For the past ten years or so I have been using HP5+ as my 
>> primary B/W
>> emulsion, having found it to be contrastier than Tri-X, 
>> which I had used
>> for the previous 20 years.
>>
>> Now I'm finding that Tri-X is more contrasty -- to my 
>> eye -- than HP5+.
>> Has anyone else noticed this? Some variables are taken 
>> care of: same
>> lab, same cameras/lenses, usually same developing batch, 
>> side-by-side
>> comparison of the negs and contacts. Tri-X has a purple 
>> mask and HP5+
>> doesn't, but I'm not sure what difference that makes.
>
>
> Differences in developing-time or -temperature?
>
> You can trim any film to any contrast index you like by 
> developing
> it longer or shorter (and adjusting exposure). If HP5+ is 
> too contrasty,
> shorten your development by 15%... (for a first 
> approximation).
>
> You typically can't adjust curve shape by changing 
> developers and/or
> times, a straight or s-type density curve is built into 
> the emulsion. It
> is possible (by a very low margin) to get a slight 
> shoulder in a density
> curve by using twobath-development, but I haven't found 
> that too useful.
>
> Martin
>
    I will add that Tri-X should not have a purple cast. 
This is due to either underfixing or lack of washing. Try 
refixing these negatives in _fresh_ fixer. The color is 
either from residual sensitizing dye bonded to unfixed 
halide or to residual anti-halation dye. The latter should 
be decolorized by the sulfite in the developer or fixer. 
Re-fixing should get rid of either dye. If there is still a 
slight color use a sulfite wash aid like Kodak Hypo Clearing 
Agent as directed. That will usually remove any residual 
color.
    The only films with any sort of base density are 35mm 
B&W films which have a pigment in the support to prevent the 
conduction of light through them when one end is exposed to 
the light, as is common for 35mm. This pigment is usually 
either neutral gray or slightly blue. It can not be removed.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]





 5 Posts in Topic:
Ilford HP5+ and Tri-X contrast
krishnananda <k@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 16:13:40 
Re: Ilford HP5+ and Tri-X contrast
Noons <wizofoz2k@[EMAI  2008-05-01 22:33:14 
Re: Ilford HP5+ and Tri-X contrast
krishnananda <k@[EMAIL  2008-05-01 11:53:26 
Re: Ilford HP5+ and Tri-X contrast
Martin J <maja@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 12:18:14 
Re: Ilford HP5+ and Tri-X contrast
"Richard Knoppow&quo  2008-05-22 00:00:43 

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