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Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras

by "HEMI-Powered" <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 12, 2007 at 04:34 PM

bugbear added these comments in the current discussion du jour
.... 

> aniramca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> - Why P&S cameras have relatively weaker built-in flash than
>> the DSLR? Could P&S cameras be designed to have stronger
>> built-in flash like a DSLR?
>> - I noticed that my P&S camera usually is too weak to take
>> picture in large indoors (restaurant, meeting halls, etc).
>> Could this be improved by stronger flash? I have always
>> complained in the past that most P&S cameras have tiny
>> built-in flash, and without a hot-shoe, you cannot improve
>> your lighting in indoor shots. 
> 
> Unless you have a truly powerful flash, you're doomed;
> this pretty much means off camera, and BIG (read heavy).
> 
> On camera-flashes are (IMHO) a nice "get a shot"
> work rounds, when the alternative is getting nothing,
> but most on-camera flashes don't give you good shots:
> just snaps.

I would agree with you. By analogy, I view the built-in flash on 
my Rebel XT to be about the equivalent of the old flash cubes on 
Kodak Instamatic cameras, useful mainly for short-distance 
snapshots. However, I do not dismiss or diminish the value of my 
feeble flash. In fact, I will often sling my Rebel sans my 430EX 
over my shoulder with just the little kit lens on it when I go 
someplace. One never knows when a photo op might appear, but I 
don't want to lug in excess of 3-4 pounds and a huge chunk of 
"iron" around with me unless I KNOW that I'm going to be shooting 
something specific, like a indoor car show, museum, or the like 
or even an outdoor car show without flash. And, if I take my 
camera to my daughter's house and grab a few candids of her 
playing with her dog and cat, a minimal size and weight system 
works just fine and distance never exceed 10-12 feet (but if they 
do, I do an effective doubling of the GN by upping ISO from 100 
to 200).

> I don't think ANY on camera flash would have improved
> this:
> 
> http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/bugbear33/bar/?action=vi
> ew&current=bar1.jpg (check the EXIF)
> 
>    BugBear (big fan of high ISO, and available light)
> 
-- 
HP, aka Jerry
 




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Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
aniramca@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-11-12 07:11:32 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
bugbear <bugbear@[EMAI  2007-11-12 15:29:55 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
landon crowly <nomailf  2007-11-12 16:22:52 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
ASAAR <caught@[EMAIL P  2007-11-12 15:19:14 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Ron Hunter <rphunter@[  2007-11-13 03:58:24 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"HEMI-Powered"   2007-11-12 16:34:07 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Data-Point <spamblock@  2007-11-12 16:13:37 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
ray <ray@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-11-12 09:16:11 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Trev" <trev  2007-11-12 16:16:58 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Pat <groups@[EMAIL PRO  2007-11-12 09:01:08 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
=?UTF-8?B?U01TIOaWr+iSgua  2007-11-12 13:14:52 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Mr.Bolshoyhuy"  2007-11-12 14:21:30 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Ron Hunter <rphunter@[  2007-11-13 03:50:55 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Chris Malcolm <cam@[EM  2007-11-13 12:31:10 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
franklin-d-worth <fdwo  2007-11-13 14:12:28 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-13 16:00:50 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
franklin-d-worth <fdwo  2007-11-13 16:07:10 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-13 18:46:10 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
franklin-d-worth <fdwo  2007-11-13 18:23:05 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-13 19:50:24 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
-hh <recscuba_google@[  2007-11-13 15:38:25 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
-hh <recscuba_google@[  2007-11-13 18:26:28 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-13 20:20:12 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Chris Savage <spam.goe  2007-11-13 23:13:40 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
franklin-d-worth <fdwo  2007-11-14 01:04:48 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-14 02:39:22 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
franklin-d-worth <fdwo  2007-11-14 02:04:21 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-14 12:24:54 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
=?UTF-8?B?U01TIOaWr+iSgua  2007-11-13 17:46:11 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-14 02:53:41 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Marty Fremen <Marty@[E  2007-11-15 01:04:58 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-15 10:48:39 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
Chris Savage <spam.goe  2007-11-16 13:56:57 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
-hh <recscuba_google@[  2007-11-13 20:30:38 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
"Bill Again" &l  2007-11-13 21:57:24 
Re: Built-in flash in P&S digital and DSLR cameras
-hh <recscuba_google@[  2007-11-13 19:37:03 

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