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Re: Different Formats for Different Countries -- Variable Density B&W Film

by Chris Hills <chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 30, 2006 at 12:43 PM

In message <45451005$0$13804$822641b3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, David 
Nebenzahl <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>Jean-David Beyer spake thus:
>
>> Now ordinary printing paper, in USA, came from the size of the frame
>> commonly used for making paper by hand that turned out 17 by 22 inch
sheets
>> after the deckle edge was trimmed off. This was about the largest they
could
>> make sheets for a long time. These where cut in half both ways making
8½ by
>> 11 sheets as standard for printing (and later, typewriting).
>
>OK, so where did that Yurpeen standard, A4, come from?

A4 is NOT European  It is International and is used EVERYWHERE except 
the USA.

see http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html

Some points from the link:

"The United States, Canada, and in part Mexico, are today the only 
industrialized nations in which the ISO standard paper sizes are not yet 
widely used."

"If you live in the U.S. and have never been abroad, you might not be 
aware that paper and accessories in the North-American sizes are not 
commonly available outside the U.S. or Canada. They are very difficult 
to obtain in any other country"

Interestingly:-
"Although it is rarely advertised, ISO A4 laser printer and copying 
paper, as well as suitable files and folders, are available today from 
many U.S. office supply companies. A4 paper and supplies are regularly 
ordered in the U.S. today, especially by companies and organizations 
with a lot of international correspondence, including patent lawyers, 
diplomats, universities, and some government agencies. It seems that in 
the U.S., at the moment, only higher-quality paper brands are easily 
available in A4, i.e. the types of paper preferred for im****tant 
do***ents, such as international patent applications. Many of the larger 
stationery chains do offer at least one type of A4 paper in their 
catalogues, but not all shops keep it on stock routinely and might have 
to order it first."


So eventually the US might start using standard paper sizes that fit in 
with the rest of the world.


-- 
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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
/\/\/ chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      www.phaedsys.org \/\/\
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