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Re: really no purpose anymore for traditional films (negative or diapositve) (by 2006) ?

by "babelfish" <babelfish2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 21, 2006 at 02:27 AM

The 60's nothing! I still see such b&w prints from many big box store 
operations. Worse yet, they're printed on color paper with a severe color 
cast as well as very low contrast. Most amazingly, people buy it thinking 
that's what they shot. They get upset with film and their cameras and they

blame everything except for the store because that would blow a hole in 
their belief that all processing is the same except for the price. Once
that 
happens, it gets expensive.

For those interested parties, I looked up our data and the profiles show
the 
following black vales as measured in LAB color space:

The local Costco = 11
Tech Photo = 2

Absolute black is 0 in LAB space and white is 100. Using the LAB or L* 
values which are in the profiles themselves removes any discrepancies
about 
which densitometry was used to measure a print because the LAB numbers are

measured by a calibrated spectrophotometer in both cases.

The actual comparison wireframes which show the increased gamut as well as

maximum density are at 
ftp://ftp.technicalphoto.com/pub/colorwheel_side_view_RGB.jpg



<ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:1163997260.268072@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <Qv28h.2615$oP6.1634@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> babelfish <babelfish2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>If one is willing to accept a dark gray instead of the maximum black
>
> That reminds me of the terrible b&w prints one would get from the
> "drug store" processing in the 60's. Not a hint of black anywhere
> on the paper.
>
> --
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/
 




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kodak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-07 06:36:50 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-07 21:03:34 
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scenic_man <zcukpkn02@  2006-11-08 03:11:53 
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david Windsor <Davou00  2006-11-15 16:02:16 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2006-11-16 13:42:14 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-16 22:13:04 
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philip@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-20 00:48:51 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2006-11-22 02:13:49 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-21 21:05:29 
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philip@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-22 15:04:55 
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"jeremy" <je  2006-11-08 13:42:15 
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David Starr <davestarr  2006-11-08 15:49:25 
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Keith Tapscott. <Keith  2006-11-26 13:49:01 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-27 06:28:15 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2006-11-27 13:42:09 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-28 00:41:07 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-27 20:03:11 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-28 03:15:53 
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"jeremy" <je  2006-11-28 05:55:05 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-28 06:35:46 
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"jeremy" <je  2006-11-28 06:59:40 
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philip@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-28 09:35:46 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-28 19:24:11 
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"Derek Gee" <  2006-11-30 03:54:31 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2006-11-28 13:41:08 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-28 19:27:06 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-29 01:04:33 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-28 20:40:44 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-29 05:51:10 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-29 18:48:23 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-30 07:49:19 
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philip@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-11-30 09:15:28 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2006-11-29 13:28:44 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-30 00:43:55 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-30 18:31:05 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2006-12-01 18:51:47 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-12-01 15:19:36 
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2006-12-04 14:41:07 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-11-27 18:44:33 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-12-05 03:09:59 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-12-05 00:01:47 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-12-05 07:02:08 
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"Greg \"_\"  2006-12-05 19:27:56 
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ellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006-12-06 07:48:09 
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