"Chris H" <chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> In message <lIHIj.11872$Q52.9062@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, jim
> <jim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>>
>>I must disagree somewhat. I have not been vague at all.
>
> You were somewhat.
HOW?
Here is my original post.
"I am seeking photos for a new project. I want all of the photos of
people
helping that I can get.
The people can be helping people or animals. The "help" can be as simple
as
helping someone across the street or as dangerous as dragging a fellow
soldier out of the line of fire. They can be of humans helping humans or
humans helping animals. They can even be of people just doing a good
deed.
The essence of the picture should be that of a person giving of themselves
to help others.
It would seem that these photos abound...but I am having problems finding
them. If you have seen such images would you please post links to them
here.
I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!
jim"
>
>> I have plainly
>>stated that need images of people helpeing people, people helping
animals
>>or
>>just people caught doing a good deed. I'd like the photos to not be
>>staged.
>>
>>The project doesn't require anything more than that.
>
> Yes it does. You came across as wanting free photos for something you
are
> publishing (implied, by omission, for money).
Please point out the word "free" in the original post. I was open to
anything, hence no restrictions as to licensing were even mentioned in the
OP.
>You purely stated what YOU wanted.
Of course I did! What should I have done....assummed I knew what you (or
"they") wanted and posted that? How the hell do I know what you want?
And,
since the gist of the post *was* to locate what *I* wanted, I felt it
entirely appropriate to dwell on that subject matter.
Odd as it may be, I prefer to address the topic at hand in the posts that
I
write.
> You did not explain the project and say you were prepared to collaborate
> with a photographer or pay for photos. So the whole thing started of
with
> every one at cross purposes.
That's because people read what they wanted to read and not what I typed.
Here's where I screwed up.....I *assumed* that asking for help would
elicit
a logical response indicating where the needed photos would be found. I
further *assumed* that the poster of said information would have, or point
to, the requirements for the use of said photos.
I guess I assumed common, basic logic. For that I solemnly apologize.
> A book of poetry and pictures is 50/50 poetry and picture. How would you
> feel is some one said "I need some {industrial] poems to put in a book
of
> [industrial] pictures I am publishing.
If I had knowledge of where to find the needed items, I would simply post
a
link - not go all schizoid assuming things not said and starting a useless
flame war over a simple (but not simple enough for the posters here)
request
for images of people helping people.
>>Instead of offering information if one has it, I have been subjected to
>>accusations of wanting others to do my work, wanting free photos, etc. -
>>NONE of which I ever said in my original post.
>
> It was implied by what you left out as much as what you said. Where
there
> was information missing people assumed.
I also did not state other irrelevant things - like what clothes (if any)
I
would be wearing while doing this project. Nor did I discuss my religious
affilliations, views on poligamy, marital status, sexual preference or a
whole host of other non-issues.
If they are going to assume things not in evidence, why stop at imagining
"free" was implied? Why not go ahead and imagine that I "implied via
ommission" that am using the proceeds to try and free convicted child
molesters and support the Knights of the Klu Klux Klan and that I have a
secret death ray that I am using the proceeds to build and take over the
world?
When you (they) start arguing against arguments not presented, I guess
that
really opens a whole can of worms for the voices in their heads to play
with, doesn't it?
>>Would I take free photos? Only if they fit the project.
>>Would I pay for the right photos? Gladly.
>
>>At this point though, I think I will simply retire to the bath with a
sack
>>full of wild cats for a relaxing bath.
>
> Don't go into publishing (I can say that as some one who is published
for
> both photos and the written word) You will need a MUCH thicker skin than
> you appear to have.
My skin is plenty thick enough. What's lacking is my toplerance for
stupidy.
> Stop and think. Then re-post in a new thread in a day or so explaining
> the PROJECT (not just what you need) and ask is anyone interested in
> helping with the pictures needed for it. They will of course be fully
> credited as the photographer etc.
I have stated what I needed plainly. If they wish to sell or donate
images
to the project, so be it. If not, that's fine too.
Time is too precious a thing to waste any more of it in this thread.
> You will have to explain the commercial terms of the book you are
> producing.
Only to those with the images that I am requesting.
Thanks for your views on this thread.
jim
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