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Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence

by Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2007 at 02:23 PM

In article <0fednUrBRMH9WqbbnZ2dnUVZ_v6tnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, DBLEXPOSURE 
<celstuff@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>
>
>I have not read the Wilhelm article but I will say this.  Permanence
testing
>is done using the known processes that affect the majority if not all
>artwork.  The results of this sort of testing are not to be taken
literally
>but used as bench marks to compare different ink/paper combinations and
>printing processes.
>
>
>
>If testing results state the a certain ink/paper combination or process
have
>a life of 150 years, I do not think you are to assume that the print will
>last 150 years; only time can prove that.  The results should be used to
>weigh one product or process against another.

Except it doesn't turn out that way in practice.  In 1999, several 
manufacturers offered printers with inks and papers which could be 
reliably expected to last several months without noticeable fading. Then 
Epson released their long life printers and, on the basis of Wilhelm's 
measurements and comparisons with existing inkjet media at the time, 
claimed a 26 year life when the inks were used with their most expensive 
paper.  Even though that 26 years only applied to a specific set of 
conditions, your argument suggests the Epson media should have been 
superior to earlier product - instead, it was MUCH worse!
The Wilhelm test means jack sh!t UNLESS you use his EXACT display 
methods, which are not generic.
-- 
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Python Philosophers         (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when
replying)
 




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Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"Wayne J. Cosshall&q  2007-05-04 23:19:38 
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"=\(8\)" <no  2007-05-04 10:00:41 
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"Bill Again" &l  2007-05-04 22:08:22 
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John McWilliams <jpmcw  2007-05-04 14:12:00 
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"Pete D" <no  2007-05-05 09:04:21 
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"DBLEXPOSURE" &  2007-05-04 19:53:02 
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"Wayne J. Cosshall&q  2007-05-05 16:45:31 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"=\(8\)" <no  2007-05-05 08:09:23 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2007-05-05 20:24:59 
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Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-04 22:55:54 
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frederick <lost@[EMAIL  2007-05-05 11:49:46 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2007-05-05 10:42:26 
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frederick <lost@[EMAIL  2007-05-05 16:53:16 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2007-05-05 17:46:58 
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frederick <lost@[EMAIL  2007-05-05 20:27:43 
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Rob <mesa@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-05-05 15:03:37 
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"Wayne J. Cosshall&q  2007-05-05 16:54:59 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"Wayne J. Cosshall&q  2007-05-07 22:29:46 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"Wayne J. Cosshall&q  2007-05-05 16:53:30 
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"Matt Clara" &l  2007-05-04 21:18:41 
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Pat O'Connell <gypkap@  2007-05-05 11:07:03 
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Doug McDonald <mcdonal  2007-05-05 12:54:15 
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Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-05 14:23:06 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-05 14:24:43 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
frederick <lost@[EMAIL  2007-05-06 19:10:53 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-05 14:26:32 
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Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-05 14:43:52 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Bill Tuthill <ccreekin  2007-05-07 12:50:28 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-06 13:00:16 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
frederick <lost@[EMAIL  2007-05-07 09:18:13 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-06 13:00:06 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-07 01:54:49 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
frederick <lost@[EMAIL  2007-05-07 13:43:31 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
C J Campbell <christop  2007-05-06 19:27:22 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-08 08:57:30 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"Poxy" <pox@  2007-05-08 11:44:44 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Bill Tuthill <ccreekin  2007-05-08 16:31:29 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-09 08:54:15 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2007-05-09 22:35:13 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Bill Tuthill <ccreekin  2007-05-09 09:29:03 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
Kennedy McEwen <rkm@[E  2007-05-09 20:19:17 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
alan.browne@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-05-13 12:46:42 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"Jem Raid" <  2007-05-27 23:16:08 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"Wayne J. Cosshall&q  2007-05-28 09:58:41 
Re: Interview with Henry Wilhelm on print permanence
"G.T." <getn  2007-05-30 14:01:20 

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