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Re: experimenting with 35mm film

by "Fred Anonymous" <anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM

"Duncan" <writeonline@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Tony Polson" <docnews2011@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>> "Duncan" <writeonline@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>"Tony Polson" <docnews2011@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> "Woody" <woody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I had one of those - brilliant camera.
>>>>>
>>>>>However you will find two problems (1) sourcing the film amd (2) 
>>>>>getting
>>>>>it processed - not to mention the cost.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The cost????
>>>>
>>>> It isn't film that costs money, it's digital.
>>>>
>>>> By the time I had bought several DSLR bodies, replacing them as
better
>>>> ones became available, had the sensors professionally cleaned several
>>>> times, replaced several of my lenses because, while they gave perfect
>>>> results on film, they didn't work well on digital, upgraded my PC and
>>>> bought new monitors, a monitor profiler and some very expensive
>>>> software, plus additional hard disks for storage, burnt a great many
>>>> CDs and DVDs, and spent a fortune on memory cards ...
>>>>
>>>> ... I could have bought and processed all the film I would need for
at
>>>> least the next 20 years.
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing expensive about film.  Digital is a money pit.
>>>>
>>>
>>>That saved me from writing the exact same thing. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> You're very welcome.
>>
>> I'm pretty fed up of people making false claims that digital is better
>> than film (it is still a long way away, especially in dynamic range)
>> and that shooting digital is cheap.  Well, I suppose it can be cheap
>> if you just buy a cheap digital point and shoot compact camera, but
>> not if you want to be serious about photography.
>>
>> When I totted up the sums I have spent on digital gear in the last
>> five years, I was pretty shocked.   Some of my gear gets a lot of hard
>> use, shooting on construction sites and on or next to the sea.  Cement
>> and stone dust and salt water spray are camera/lens killers, so I have
>> to replace my equipment surprisingly often.   Upgrading cameras and
>> lenses when they need replacing means that I cannot take advantage of
>> anything getting cheaper.
>>
>> Put all this together with regular upgrades to computer hardware and
>> software (two PCs at home, one for image editing and the other for the
>> business side, plus a laptop) and digital photography is extremely
>> expensive.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is either using a cheap point
>> and shoot compact digicam or deluding themselves.
>>
>>
>
> When I did the sums I came to much the same conclusion. And my
investment 
> in equipment of the years has paid off not having to buy new more 
> expensive kit. In fact the more I do the les I can get away with.
Cameras 
> are tools and I choose for the job in hand.
>
> Besides the costs as Tony has illustrated with digital I can put a
modern 
> film emulsion into any of my age old cameras and get better results than

> digital!
>
> The only practical way to buy into digital form a professional
perspective 
> is to lease the kit. No depreciation and full vat and value that can be 
> claimed back against tax.
>
> I do have a Fuji F2 that recently had to have a new sensor. It was cost 
> effective to have it repaired than to buy into new kit. I still use film

> camera lenses with it and even with 1.5x magnification can do most of
what 
> I need from digital.
>
> Apart from the silent operation that digital cameras can offer I still
use 
> my trusty Leica M4 for street photography with hyperfocal focussing.
>
> I was in a conversation the other day with a digital photographer who
has 
> no experience of film. She is a natural photographer with excellent
vision 
> and composition and struggles with technical aspects. But for her she
gets 
> the results. Alas this is not the case of the majority of digital 
> photographers IME whom are no more than glorified sharpshooters with the

> advantage of limitless images subject to battery life and disc capacity.
>
> These days, as it was with the advent of desk top publi****ng where 
> everyone was suddenly was a graphic designer digital photographer has
made 
> photographers out of everyone but not always for the good.
>
> Duncan
>

Hello folks.

I used Canon EOS film bodies and lenses until I felt that Canon offered a 
decent (for my needs) digital body. Note that I stayed with film until 
digital bodies met my needs.

My second-hand digital body cost around £400. On its first outing on a 
week's holiday with me it saved me well over £200 in film purchase and 
processing costs. One great advantage of digital is that I can change ISO 
without having to carry lots of half-exposed films.

For my needs, digital is better than film.
Regards, Ian.

I
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
experimenting with 35mm film
simon <srp@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-17 11:04:02 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"Woody" <woo  2008-03-17 20:02:04 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"Trev" <trev  2008-03-17 21:09:28 
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Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-17 22:17:37 
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Sarah Brown <sarahlizz  2008-03-19 01:26:32 
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suddengunfire <dariusd  2008-03-18 01:57:08 
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DB4 <kubaton@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-18 22:16:07 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"Woody" <woo  2008-03-18 23:24:49 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-19 14:12:04 
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"Duncan" <wr  2008-03-19 17:38:15 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-19 20:46:49 
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"G Paleologopoulos&q  2008-03-21 14:44:52 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-21 17:42:01 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"Duncan" <wr  2008-03-23 08:03:00 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"Fred Anonymous"  2008-03-23 11:49:15 
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"Roger Blackwell&quo  2008-03-20 17:08:28 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"Hugh Spence" &  2008-03-23 09:12:13 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
Tony Polson <docnews20  2008-03-23 12:43:05 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"Hugh Spence" &  2008-03-23 19:20:26 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
simon <srp@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-18 17:20:55 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
simon <srp@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-20 09:08:13 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
"monopix" <n  2008-03-20 22:50:42 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
Paul Giverin <paul@[EM  2008-03-23 13:13:20 
Re: experimenting with 35mm film
Will Wilkinson <me@[EM  2008-03-24 13:56:01 

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